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Sleep is more important than food

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Re: Sleep is more important than food

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"So how much sleep do you need? When researchers put test subjects in environments without clocks or windows and ask them to sleep any time they feel tired, 95 percent sleep between seven and eight hours out of every 24. Another 2.5 percent sleep more than eight hours." The broken link there is meant to point to ( http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/how-sleep-works/how-m... ) and I can't spot where it mentions thi…

I think the theory is that once you've fully slept off your sleep debt (which I've heard can be up to 40 hours) you are no longer able to sleep much more than your natural sleep requirement, bored or not.

Very interesting, do you have any sources on this? If I forget to set my alarm I can easily sleep for 14-16 hours before I wake, any day of the week. If one possible solution to this is to go on a total sleeping binge for a week or so I'd be thrilled!

Re: Sleep is more important than food

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I was hoping to see some sleep hacks in the comments here. The author cites a few in the article: 1) Naps 2) Go to bed earlier 3) Start winding down at least 45 minutes before 4) Write down what's on your mind Does anyone here have any other sleep hacks to share?

4) Stop using an alarm. Wake up when your body tells you to.

If I do that I wake up at 4 p.m. What is my body trying to tell me?

Re: Sleep is more important than food

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Schools such as Caltech and MIT have rigorous curricula that proverbially requires constant study every day of the week just to stay in the middle of the pack. Naturally, most students cut back on sleep. Proponents of this approach are aware of this, even boast about it, saying that this is the best way to learn the material. On the other hand, numerous studies -- including the link at the top of this page -- conclud…

No, they can't both be right, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're at odds with each other, either. Perhaps some of those students might benefit or feel a hell of a lot better if they did get some sleep. I knew plenty of kids from Caltech and Harvey Mudd who did very well in school and didn't sacrifice sleep every night.

Also, I'm not sure "proverbially" applies to the requirement of constant study in this case.

Re: Sleep is more important than food

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Preparing for the California Bar Exam was a fascinating experience for me. Not only was it the most mentally challenging endeavor I had ever undertaken, it proved to be the most psychologically challenging as well.

Fortunately, our two bar prep professors were not only licensed attorneys, but also Ph.D.s in neuropsychology. Part of our rigorous training therefore was not simply learning the law, but actually learning how to learn -- in particular, how to store and recall so much data on demand -- and above all, how to manage our time. (It turns out the human brain is actually quite good at writing and storing data, but really bad at what can be best described as "random access memory" operations: recalling random data at will, instantly.)

A great deal of emphasis was placed on structuring extremely precise "living schedules," for example, what to study when, for how long, when to eat, what meals, and above all, how and when to sleep. And how to force ourselves to sleep when we couldn't.

Long story short, forcing ourselves onto regular sleeping patterns was both immediately necessary and yet proved to be one of the hardest disciplines to learn: to force yourself to stop studying at a given hour (typically 10PM) even in the midst of learning something, and allow time to drive home, have a snack, rest, unwind, and then fall asleep by 11PM, to then awaken at 7 and be back at the library at 8... every single day, for 2 months... that was truly an act of willpower. Especially for me, as I've always been the personality type where, once I start doing or learning something, I can't stop until it's totally finished or mastered. Forcing myself to stop studying without having yet completed the particular matter was excruciatingly difficult.

The same thing proved true for the three-day bar exam itself of course: had to sleep between 9 and 10PM and awaken by 6AM, with virtually no studying at all in between days. At this point, you just had to trust your brain to marinate on all that it had absorbed in the 2 months leading up to those fateful three days.

Looking back on it now, it was due largely to my discipline with sleeping habits that I was able to pass the bar on my first try.

Re: Sleep is more important than food

#146
post #76

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I completely agree with you. This place is slowly growing into another Reddit with more junk crowd joining in regularly.

Not to be too snarky, but your profile shows you've been a member for less than a year -- complaining about the "new kids" is rather ironic.

Less than a year on HN. So does that qualify for less brainy? Or you mean, I should have joined HN directly out of mother's womb?

Most realities are harsh to accept; but that doesn't change anything. Don't you see that some non-sense posts are making at the top here? And that is happening more too often?

I don't deny that today HN has the best of Internet and Techie crowd; but it is also a fact that there is also some junk. So let's accept it.

And yea guys, thanks for the down rating; much appreciated.

Re: Sleep is more important than food

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They might be drowning pigs to find the swimmers.

Or, drowning swimmers to find dopers (provigil etc).

This is the future, there can be no doubt. The rewards of performance enhancing drugs in intellectual pursuits are tremendous. Even primitive performance enhancing drugs like methamphetamine and cocaine have fuelled some of the greatest minds in history.

Re: Sleep is more important than food

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post #139

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It's peculiar that medical residents are systematically sleep deprived but commercial airline pilots cannot fly/work longer than ~8. Most of the time the plane is on auto-pilot, but there's no such thing for zombie residents doing triage at the ER.

I'm an airline pilot. Actually, the maximum duty day is 16 hours. The maximum time that may be spent behind the controls is 8 hours. The minimum length overnight is also 8 hours from leaving the airport to showing up again curbside. This means that transportation, food, and hygiene reduces time in the bed to about 6.5 hours, after which it is legal to work a 16 hour day. We are expecting new duty regulations later th…

Thanks for writing, I knew about the 8 hours in the cockpit, didn't realize there were an extra 8 outside.

Re: Sleep is more important than food

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post #107

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Can you please explain more why psychiatrists get it easier?

you must 'match' into a specialty. If you do not have a good rank or board scores you can only match into the 'lower' residencies like family or psych

Uh, yes but why are thse 'lower'?

Well I know abut family but why psych?

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