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Firefox 4 RC now available
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Re: Firefox 4 RC now available
#72Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?
HTML5 Audio. See a definitive rundown why Firefox 4 is the best answer by a wide margin: http://www.phoboslab.org/log/2011/03/the-state-of-html5-audi...
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd used Chrome exclusively for almost two years before the Fx4 beta cycle, and now I'm back on Fx full-time. I don't have time to get into the details, but Fx 4 is really a large improvement over 3.6.x.
Ditto. And I stuck with Chrome until Xmarks started giving me grief. Upgraded to the FF beta about three months ago, and really liked the improvement over 3.6. Even when the Xmarks / Chrome thing sorted itself out, I found that wasn't reason enough to go back. I've also started using a privacy plug-in called Cocoon (also in beta) that I'm really pleased with. Currently, it's FF only. One other thing. It's small, and…
> The way FF adds subtle indicators when the content on a pinned page updates is especially nice.
I'm on Chrome 10.0.648.127 and it does a periodic glow when pinned content has been updated. It's a little too subtle for my tastes, really.
Re: Firefox 4 RC now available
#74Firefox: Chrome Emacs: Vim I guess different browsers for different types of people. I still use Firefox on occasion but mostly as a runtime for Firebug. Otherwise, I switched to Chrome more than an year ago and haven't looked back.
That's funny, because one of the main reasons I've stuck to Firefox is its superior Vim emulation support (via Pentadactyl).
And Emacs has viper :)
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(disclaimer: I work for Mozilla) Extensions. Firefox has the greatest browser extension ecosystem bar-none. In the past, you had to choose between Chrome's performance, and Firefox 3's extensions. Certainly Firefox was playing catch-up in performance, but we're there now. Chrome is still far far behind in terms of extensions, and showing no sign of catching up.
Can you elaborate on the differences b/t Chrome and FF extensions a bit? As a Vimperator addict I don't doubt it, but Chrome does seem to have a rapidly expanding extension & app ecosystem.
A lot of Chrome's extensions don't integrate well with the browser itself. They feel a lot like bookmarklets rather than an actual extension of the browser (this is by design). Firefox extensions can be very well integrated. For example, NoScript on Firefox far exceeds the quality any of the alternatives on Chrome.
Simply put, Chrome extensions are HTML/CSS/JS, while Firefox extensions can actually manipulate the interface of the browser to a greater degree (making stuff like Vimperator possible when it wouldn't be possible on Chrome)
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Some other software on your computer put it there. Why does Firefox allow this?
It's not a question of Firefox allowing this -- if you run any program on your computer it'll have access to your data (and hence to your Firefox profile), and one of the principles behind Firefox is extensibility.
Chrome has taken the same approach Firefox did:
We can't prevent this from happening so we try to provide a good way for other software to do it, so they don't do it in terrible ways:
http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/external_extensions...
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I'm fine with proprietary tech, but Adobe Flash and Acrobat are unsafe, buggy and drive my CPU mad. After reading your comment, I have once again searched for a setting within Chrome to remove the built-in Flash, but I can't find it. That leaves Chromium and Iron.
I'm not sure that you can remove it, but you should be able to disable it through the about:plugins page. The long way around is through Options->Under the Hood->Plugin-ins->Disable individual plugins.
The same goes for any Acrobat plugin you may have, though I think Chrome's built-in PDF viewer supersedes Adobe's.
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Unlike Chrome's bookmark sync, Firefox Sync encrypts your data client-side for privacy and security Chrome 10 can encrypt everything client-side too.
Everything that gets synced -- bookmarks, preferences, etc. -- or just passwords? Do you have a source for that? I can only find evidence that passwords are encrypted client-side.
Hmm, good point. According to their documentation, "synced data is encrypted when it travels between your computer and Google’s servers" (this seems to refer to encryption in transit, i.e. SSL) and "As an added layer of protection, your saved passwords are encrypted on your computer and on Google’s servers using a cryptographic key."
http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&...
That does seem to imply that only passwords are encrypted while in storage. That's not surprising, since Chrome has a "master password" for password encryption, but unlike Firefox it does not require transferring an encryption key for your other sync data. (The client-side encryption key is the reason you need to "pair" your devices to set up Firefox Sync, instead of just entering a username and password.)
Re: Firefox 4 RC now available
#79Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?
All the Firefox 4 features in one place: https://developer.mozilla.org/media/uploads/demos/p/a/paulro...
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It's actually about as fast as Chrome now. Too little too late in my opinion, but at least it's fast enough that it won't actively piss me off when I need a second browser open for some reason.
Yeah, for a while now I have used firefox in kind of I need a quick environment free of cache and cookies to test if what I'm seeing is right.
Isn't that the point of Chromes ctrl-shift-T incognito mode?