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Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Firefox: Chrome Emacs: Vim I guess different browsers for different types of people. I still use Firefox on occasion but mostly as a runtime for Firebug. Otherwise, I switched to Chrome more than an year ago and haven't looked back.

My modified version of your analogy:

Firefox: Emacs

Chrom{e,ium}: Vim

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?

> Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about? Sure! Here are some things I personally find exciting about FF4. I'm not saying everyone should find them exciting, they are just my personal opinion: * FF4 is the only web browser to combine a tracing JIT with a method JIT for JavaScript. Some websites run amazingly fast with that. See the mozilla demos site for examples. * IE9 has great hardware acce…

Mozilla WebM support was developed 'behind closed doors' and 'dropped' into the open on announcement day. You're right that it's not the norm and the developers are generally opposed to that approach though.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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> If Mozilla wanted to copy Chrome/Safari's UI, they've succeeded They haven't succeeded because they still see the need for both a search box and an address box and the tabs don't close right under where the last close button was (my biggest gripes).

The nice thing about the separate search box is the corresponding list of available search engines.

I much prefer Chrome's approach, where it remembers sites you've visited that have a search bar (IMDB for example). If I start typing 'im' and press tab it changes into a search box for that site.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?

Firebug. The Webkit inspector is catching up nicely, but for now Firebug is Firefox's 'killer feature' (at least for web devs).

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?

FF4 is fast and feature rich. Try out Chrome and FF4 on this site: https://demos.mozilla.org/en-US/ There doesn't have to be only one browser, right? We want a few great implementations of the open standards.

Second that, and it's awesome that the two best are both available on Linux. I go back and forth every few weeks.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?

(disclaimer: I work for Mozilla) Extensions. Firefox has the greatest browser extension ecosystem bar-none. In the past, you had to choose between Chrome's performance, and Firefox 3's extensions. Certainly Firefox was playing catch-up in performance, but we're there now. Chrome is still far far behind in terms of extensions, and showing no sign of catching up.

Can you elaborate on the differences b/t Chrome and FF extensions a bit? As a Vimperator addict I don't doubt it, but Chrome does seem to have a rapidly expanding extension & app ecosystem.

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1. Panorama (formerly "Tab Candy"): http://mashable.com/2010/08/25/firefox-4-beta-4-panorama/ 2. Firefox Sync, which syncs bookmarks, tabs, passwords, history, and formfill data to all your different computers -- and to Firefox for Android. Firefox Sync encrypts your data client-side for privacy and security, and you can run your own sync server if you want to. (There are multiple open-source server implementations.)…

Unlike Chrome's bookmark sync, Firefox Sync encrypts your data client-side for privacy and security Chrome 10 can encrypt everything client-side too.

Everything that gets synced -- bookmarks, preferences, etc. -- or just passwords? Do you have a source for that? I can only find evidence that passwords are encrypted client-side.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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> If Mozilla wanted to copy Chrome/Safari's UI, they've succeeded They haven't succeeded because they still see the need for both a search box and an address box and the tabs don't close right under where the last close button was (my biggest gripes).

The nice thing about the separate search box is the corresponding list of available search engines.

Can you explain what's nice about that (compared to alternatives)?

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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I'm used to Firefox 3.6 on Win7. There are a few reasons why it's my go-to browser when I'm using Windows: 1) Plug-ins like Firebug, web dev toolbar, greasemonkey, and resizeable textarea 2) Tabs are well-placed and readable, and you can simply double-click next to tabs to open a new tab 3) A proper status bar that's always visible 4) A full menu bar 5) No Adobe Flash built-in I've installed Firefox 4 RC. The colors…

You can reenable the status bar with the Status-4-Evar extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/status-4-evar...

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Firefox: Chrome Emacs: Vim I guess different browsers for different types of people. I still use Firefox on occasion but mostly as a runtime for Firebug. Otherwise, I switched to Chrome more than an year ago and haven't looked back.

That's funny, because one of the main reasons I've stuck to Firefox is its superior Vim emulation support (via Pentadactyl).
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