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He has every right to filter negative comments, but it makes me not want to read his site further if all he does is post non-contrary opinions.
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> I'd suggest working with or managing a place with low-skilled people. They of course aren't all like that but it seems it attracts low-motivation, low-effort, or low-caring Pay low wage, get low motivation. No one's going to bust their ass over a mcgriddle for minimum wage.
Give an inch and they take a mile. You could pay a McDonalds worker all you like and he'll still just try to get away with doing less work.
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You have a very myopic view of what Amazon is and what roles the majority of its labor force occupy. The bulk of Amazon's workforce are delivery drivers, warehouse workers, and datacenter rats. They are not paid fairly. It's pretty obvious from the numbers. For more supporting evidence, read TFA.
https://www.google.com/search?q=amazon+15+hr+minimum+wage
Also 15 dollars per hour can be high or not depending where you live.
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Commute is partially under the control of the worker, where I decide to live has a huge impact on how long my commute is. I can freely decide to trade commute for money, making it my responsibility. Waiting in line to be frisked is something mandated by the employer. They control whether or not I have to do it, and how long the lines are. Since it’s under their control, it’s their financial responsibility.
That’s a bit disingenuous when short commutes are literally not affordable to some of the people we’re talking about.
It may be impossible in some cases to have short commutes, but if, even by chance, you managed to move in the same building as your office no one would force you to go through the metro.
Commutes are clearly a grey area, waiting times to be let "free" are less so.
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Is it not clear that I was speculating from language like "my guess is", and is it not clear that I'm not trying to cast aspersions on Tim's specific motives from language like "I don't mean to rag specifically on Tim"?
All of your uses of "he" were referring to Bray himself. That's how pronouns work. And you can say "guess" all you want. There was nothing in his post, or any other article I know of, that indicates Bray's motives were anything other than what he said (and backed up with extensive supporting evidence). So your motivation to "guess" doesn't come from the article itself, nor from any competing evidence (which I doubt e…
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Just compare the incentives for both parts to be dishonest and you have your answer. What would workers gain from being dishonest except the risk of being fired or retaliated upon? And why, if organizers are lying, can't Amazon just disprove them by showing to the public their perfect working conditions? Finally, isn't it a natural instinct to side with the weaker element in a fight? Does Amazon really need your supp…
Stop ordering from Amazon if you really feel so strongly about this. No point making all this grand-stands while on the other hand, you will just goto Amazon for your needs. That is the real way to hurt them.
They promised the earth on privacy and after a few month suddenly pulled a bait and switch on that.
For me that was such dishonest behavior that I pulled my business from them and never, ever ordered anything else.
A fulfilled, satisfying life is not dependent on being an Amazon customer.
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You're right, they're not complex. For a person They haven't been automated because it is still hard to do. Simply carrying boxes is easy, but picking up products (of different sizes, shapes, weights, "grabability", etc and putting them into orders is complicated. That being said, it might be that different companies have different stress and pressure levels and different working conditions.
It's not that complicated. If you look up Ocado, they have entirely automated their warehouses.
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No one at Hacker News will consider this. Here people will criticize big corporations (by generalizing few anecdotal examples) and demand higher pay while sitting inside their million dollar houses (and stopping new housing construction near them) ordering stuff from Amazon.
You're poking holes in people's comments in this thread for generalizing while making wild generalizations yourself about HN membership? Why pick this hill to die on?
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I suspect the same percentage of people exploiting the system in warehouses as in office jobs, still you can see very "inhumane" rules only in warehouses.
The difference is that with unskilled jobs, you can immediately find a replacement for the position. It's not as easy with skilled labor, so there is more leniency. I think the leniency is inversely proportional to the replaceability.
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> IMHO firing whistle blowers is the kind of action that should be called out as very negative and not something to be apologetic about. Agree 100%. Daylight is the best disinfectant, especially in publicly traded companies. Every CEO, CMO, etc loves white-knighting ("We care about the environment/our employees!") until the shareholders start calling. Then they're the first to start covering up problems. That's not t…
> Daylight is the best disinfectant Shame about all the deplatforming then
Providing a platform for vile attention-seekers doesn't make them less vile. They have no shame.