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Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by torgian »

faizshah wrote: post #815
dreamcompiler wrote: post #733

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The "real" Escape key is essential. I'm using a new 16" MBP at work and it's quite nice, but without the real Escape key I'd probably be cursing the computer every day. I thought I'd hate the touchbar, but I actually thought it was cute -- for about an hour. Then I realized it was just a useless gimmick and reset it to "Expanded Control Strip" which is Apple's euphemism for "Make the touchbar look and act just like t…

The touchbar is for sure a gimmick, but I found some use for it in PyCharm. There’s a lot of commands you can run from the menubar in pycharm so its kinda useful to skip a complicated hotkey and just add it to the touchbar. Maybe in video editing programs theres some use?

I imagine it might be more useful for content creation than others. Then again, maybe not.

I was forced to remove several buttons from the touch bar, because when I go to type numbers I will occasionally brush the bar with my fingertips, interrupting my workflow as something random suddenly pops up.

I hate the Touch Bar.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by bashinator »

geoelectric wrote: post #739
swang wrote: post #718

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Everyone keeps talking about vi/emacs stuff. While that was annoying, the more annoying aspect was when macOS softlocked and I was unable to hit the chord (cmd+opt+esc) to get the kill task window because the touchbar froze as well. Having a virtual ESC key in software that can be frozen, where part of your keyboard chord to kill apps includes the ESC key is really, really, stupid and caused me lots of wasted time th…

Mapping the Caps Lock key to Esc in the modifier remap interface is how I handled this situation (and others with essential ESC). Figured that probably wasn't coincidence that they added Esc to it when the new keyboard was introduced--was as much of a nod to mitigating a bad idea as we got. But yeah, it was stupid, especially given that software developers are a very visible market for them in the Bay Area. As soon a…

This didn't work for those of us who map Caps Lock to Control, like god intended. IIRC, it wasn't possible to map the left Control key to ESC for some reason.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by saagarjha »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #722
dkonofalski wrote: post #641

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I'm still surprised that so many people are stuck on the Escape key but it's probably no surprise that the ones that are stuck are all developers using vi or emacs. I love the Touch Bar and had no problem adjusting/remapping and find the utility of the Touch Bar for video and audio editing to be invaluable now. I wasn't sold on it before but, over the last year or so, I'll be really disappointed if they remove it. Ad…

Or, you know, literally any app where `esc` is the "cancel and exit this dialog" key. Which is every Adobe application, all DAWs, etc. etc.

Actually, that behavior is baked into the OS.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by kristianp »

dxxvi wrote: post #867

I have to work with a Windows/Linux laptop and a MacBook Pro. It's very inconvenient when the MBP keyboard doesn't have Home, End, PageUp, PageDown and Delete.

I agree, however most of the hn crowd learnt to type on that keyboard layout so you won't have much sympathy here. Thank goodness for Lenovo keyboards.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by h0l0cube »

MaintenanceMode wrote: post #632

Bringing back the escape key is such a admission of their original screw up. I'm glad they admitted it and reversed the design decision. But I'm still on a 2012 15" MacBook that's running strong. I normally would have updated but using my work 15" has been horrific between the dongles, the keyboard randomly dropping keys (last week "G" would not work, now it's back. The most infuriating thing about the touch bar, out…

> Yes I'm a vi user.

Have you tried using crtl-[? As a side benefit, it's less of a stretch on the little finger, and it ought to work across most vi setups.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by saagarjha »

Veen wrote: post #778
bad_user wrote: post #703

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So what do you do if you already had Caps Lock assigned to Ctrl?

CMD+. does the same as escape in most situations. Works on MacOS and iOS.

The first thing I tried to do with it, pull a window out of fullscreen, did not work :/

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by saagarjha »

hibbelig wrote: post #774
RedneckBob wrote: post #338

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I just purged Apple from my life largely because the touchbar continues to live on. Love my new Lenovo, btw. As a workaround for the touchbar that worked pretty well, I bought a silicon keyboard protector for the Apple Magic Keyboard, cut out the area for the function keys, and used hot glue to glue it over the touch bar. Prevented the touchbar from activating at the slightest touch and did return some of the feel of…

I use Karabiner Elements to map space+1 through space+0 to F1 through F10.

I believe macOS sets up ^[number] shortcuts to do exactly that as well?

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by ska »

dewey wrote: post #424
saddlerustle wrote: post #349

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The price $2999 in the US. There's no markup here, Apple's EU pricing just includes 20% VAT ($600) and implicit AppleCare (~$300) as required by EU consumer law.

> implicit AppleCare (~$300) as required by EU consumer law I wouldn't say AppleCare is the same as having the extended warrenty to obey the EU consumer law. AppleCare includes a bunch of things that are outside of normal "warrenty" coverage.

While this is probably true, I don't think it would be entirely fair to beat apple up for not having an EU only warranty program tuned to the minimal that is required.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by ska »

IAmEveryone wrote: post #326
fluffything wrote: post #285

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Ehm, customs? VAT import taxes? As an individual, I can just by it in the US for personal use, and carry it over. But if you intent to transporting them for selling them, the story is very different.

Legally, you are required to pay VAT and import duty when buying in the US and importing it, even for personal use. Chances are, you aren't checked. But if you are, having the original packaging or charger will be noticed by customs. They might even have data to determine country of origin from a serial number, or notice that it's a version that wasn't available when you left for the US etc. And if they ask, the burd…

This is not EU specific, duty is typically due on consumer good when you move them between countries if you haven't owned them long enough. It's not always enforced or enforceable of course, but it's there. See for example people buying cars on either side of the US and Canada border for use on the other side.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by ska »

grecy wrote: post #359
fluffything wrote: post #253

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~~2399$~~ 2999$ (EDIT: see replies) in the US, and.... 3924$ for the same model if you buy it in Europe (3629 EUR). That's a bit outrageous. I still have a Macbook Air 2013, and have been looking for an upgrade for like 5 years, but I was not willing to pay 4k for a laptop with a worse keyboard, a worse power plug, an OS that in 2020 still doesn't have any kind of windows tiling capabilities and quite poor virtual de…

For at least 20 years it's been cheaper to buy a round trip ticket to the USA and a macbook pro than it is to just buy one in Australia.

Isn't this just because you (illegally) fail to declare it for duty purposes?

If so it wouldn't have much to do with apple, no?

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