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Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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The NHS needs funding, not our "thanks". The Government's current drive to propagandise their ongoing failure to fund essential public service should not be tolerated. (For those who are unaware, in the UK we are currently being asked by the powers that be to take part in a "clapping session" on the streets weekly).

You can simultaneously thank the NHS workers and not tolerate the government's actions.

It's not just to "propagandise" - it's to show, for a brief moment, that we appreciate their effort. We can then go back 2 minutes later to hate the Tories as much as before. Having a clap in no way makes me think I've "done my bit for the NHS" any more than voting left each and every time.

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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The NHS needs funding, not our "thanks". The Government's current drive to propagandise their ongoing failure to fund essential public service should not be tolerated. (For those who are unaware, in the UK we are currently being asked by the powers that be to take part in a "clapping session" on the streets weekly).

You seem to think you can't clap if you're annoyed. That's not true.

My sister is on the frontline. She's just finished a bunch of night shifts in an ITU as a HCA so I'll text her later, and if it's anything like recent weeks she will be exhausted, scared and frustrated.

She will be exhausted because there aren't enough staff.

She will be scared because she is working with Covid-19 +ive patients and is a single parent - she notes on ITU that PPE supply is actually OK, it's when she gets shifts on general wards it becomes more of a lottery.

She is frustrated because politics, economics and healthcare have collided in horrible ways in the last 25 years or so in the UK that has left us very much on the back foot in our ability to deal with a sudden emergency.

She won't be alone in those feelings. There isn't a nurse or doctor in the country who doesn't experience those things in some measure at least some - if not most - of the time.

The first time the clapping happened, she cried. It was recognition of thanks for the tiredness, fear and frustration that she and her colleagues go through.

It's OK to be pissed off at the Tories AND clap. It's not mutually exclusive.

The problem is when we are asked to be pissed off OR clap, and we choose to clap, and then trot down to the polling station and ask for "more of the same please!"

We need to remember this at the ballot box. If you clap and you then vote for this shower of pillocks, well, you'll go to the grave aware of your hypocrisy, and let's just hope the NHS is still there to make it as painless as possible.

This Thursday go out and clap. If you have kids, get them to paint a rainbow.

And then vote when you get the chance.

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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Did anyone hear of this rainbow = NHS thing before the Queen’s speech?

I ask because surely most of the country knows the existing connection between the rainbow symbol and LGBT issues.

Like, areas of my city painted roads in rainbow colours several years running to show welcome and support.

I’m vaguely wondering whether the rainbow was deliberately hijacked, in the same way as the phrase ‘postcode lottery’ was repurposed by the right.

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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The NHS needs funding, not our "thanks". The Government's current drive to propagandise their ongoing failure to fund essential public service should not be tolerated. (For those who are unaware, in the UK we are currently being asked by the powers that be to take part in a "clapping session" on the streets weekly).

You seem to think you can't clap if you're annoyed. That's not true. My sister is on the frontline. She's just finished a bunch of night shifts in an ITU as a HCA so I'll text her later, and if it's anything like recent weeks she will be exhausted, scared and frustrated. She will be exhausted because there aren't enough staff. She will be scared because she is working with Covid-19 +ive patients and is a single paren…

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Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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The NHS needs funding, not our "thanks". The Government's current drive to propagandise their ongoing failure to fund essential public service should not be tolerated. (For those who are unaware, in the UK we are currently being asked by the powers that be to take part in a "clapping session" on the streets weekly).

The NHS worker opposite me would really, really like people not to clap, whistle or bang drums, because she's always asleep at that time due to her shifts...

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Vote Labour next election and fund the public sector properly! Sigh. That time came 5 months ago and is now gone until the next 5 years. In the mean time perhaps you can play your part in donating in someway or even somewhere else instead of complaining.

Using the word "Sigh" online is a surefire way to start an argument. It is a passive aggressive put down and exceedingly rude. Anyway pointing out the insanity of this situation is not complaining.

> Using the word "Sigh" online is a surefire way to start an argument. It is a passive aggressive put down and exceedingly rude.

Now's not the time. Hold your fire and stand-down.

> Anyway pointing out the insanity of this situation is not complaining.

Well you don't have to donate through there then. Donating and raising money for your local NHS trust goes further than just 'clapping' in appreciation.

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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The NHS needs funding, not our "thanks". The Government's current drive to propagandise their ongoing failure to fund essential public service should not be tolerated. (For those who are unaware, in the UK we are currently being asked by the powers that be to take part in a "clapping session" on the streets weekly).

Dare mention that and you'll be hounded out "stop talking politics"

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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post #14

The NHS needs funding, not our "thanks". The Government's current drive to propagandise their ongoing failure to fund essential public service should not be tolerated. (For those who are unaware, in the UK we are currently being asked by the powers that be to take part in a "clapping session" on the streets weekly).

The NHS needs funding, not our "thanks". I didn't realise it was either/or.

The UK continuously votes to reduce healthcare funding relative to the rest of the world, so it's either "no funding and thanks" or "no funding".

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's some irony in doing so through Virgin Money. Virgin is seeking to privatize the NHS, and the group has Virgin Care, which is one of the largest private care providers contracted by the NHS. Naturally, Virgin Care pays no corporation tax -- Richard Branson has an allergy to tax, and doctors and politicians have so far not found a cure.

Well as a counterpoint, I'm personally now thoroughly bored of the left's ongoing campaign of 'weaponising the NHS', to quote former Labour leader Ed Miliband. The left would rather see patients suffer in a vast, unmanageable, outdated institution than contemplate the horror of a successfully reformed NHS incorporating a significant private component.

We don't want to add the terrible combination of cost cutting together overhead and waste of the private sector to our public services.

Re: Saying Thank You to the NHS, Using Clojure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well as a counterpoint, I'm personally now thoroughly bored of the left's ongoing campaign of 'weaponising the NHS', to quote former Labour leader Ed Miliband. The left would rather see patients suffer in a vast, unmanageable, outdated institution than contemplate the horror of a successfully reformed NHS incorporating a significant private component.

We don't want to add the terrible combination of cost cutting together overhead and waste of the private sector to our public services.

Interesting that you seem to imply that the private sector is the one with overhead issues...
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