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Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by jordache »

redmattred wrote: post #45

Here is the page to cancel your Amazon Prime membership: https://www.amazon.com/mc/pipelines/cancellation

i don't understand this movement.

If there is a purity test, to gauge your alignment with the internal company rules associated with every goods + service you rely on, then there needs to be transparency across the entire world economic landscape.

Why cherry pick? Just because media decided to bring it to your attention?

So you canceled Amazon Prime, everything else in your life was produced by some other entity. Do you go insane because you haven't vetted those sources?

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by retrac »

chrisseaton wrote: post #21
outside1234 wrote: post #9

Why does anyone work there? What a nightmare.

They pay extremely well, don't they? And a huge number of people just don't care about these issues like you do.

Pre-crisis, Amazon's warehouse workers in Ontario made just a little over minimum wage.

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by d1zzy »

aphextron wrote: post #17
outside1234 wrote: post #9

Why does anyone work there? What a nightmare.

>Why does anyone work there? What a nightmare. Money. Lots and lots of money. Amazon also operates at a scale unimaginable for most of us, which I imagine is enough of an interesting problem for some people to look past everything else.

And how much of Amazon's money or scale comes from their existing business/labor practice? Sometimes I feel people want the cake and eat it too... When was the last time a perfectly moral company with extremely friendly labor practices grew to the success and size of Amazon?

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by claudeganon »

jordache wrote: post #51
redmattred wrote: post #45

Here is the page to cancel your Amazon Prime membership: https://www.amazon.com/mc/pipelines/cancellation

i don't understand this movement. If there is a purity test, to gauge your alignment with the internal company rules associated with every goods + service you rely on, then there needs to be transparency across the entire world economic landscape. Why cherry pick? Just because media decided to bring it to your attention? So you canceled Amazon Prime, everything else in your life was produced by some other entity. Do…

No, you just take whatever action where you can, when you can, when it becomes clear that it is necessary.

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by fred_is_fred »

jordache wrote: post #51
redmattred wrote: post #45

Here is the page to cancel your Amazon Prime membership: https://www.amazon.com/mc/pipelines/cancellation

i don't understand this movement. If there is a purity test, to gauge your alignment with the internal company rules associated with every goods + service you rely on, then there needs to be transparency across the entire world economic landscape. Why cherry pick? Just because media decided to bring it to your attention? So you canceled Amazon Prime, everything else in your life was produced by some other entity. Do…

What you are proposing is that if you see clear evidence that a company is behaving badly or counter to your beliefs you should take no action because other ones may also be?

Whether or not you feel it applies specifically to this case, that doesn't make sense to me.

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by staplers »

jordache wrote: post #51
redmattred wrote: post #45

Here is the page to cancel your Amazon Prime membership: https://www.amazon.com/mc/pipelines/cancellation

i don't understand this movement. If there is a purity test, to gauge your alignment with the internal company rules associated with every goods + service you rely on, then there needs to be transparency across the entire world economic landscape. Why cherry pick? Just because media decided to bring it to your attention? So you canceled Amazon Prime, everything else in your life was produced by some other entity. Do…

Sets a precedence for future behavior. Not every murder gets solved, but the threat of consequence can influence things in the right direction.

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by jasonv »

PopeDotNinja wrote: post #20
outside1234 wrote: post #9

Why does anyone work there? What a nightmare.

If you figure out how to find an employer without issues, please let me know.

I think the issue is that most of the companies on that list are re-shaping economies at planet scale. Maybe it's fair to object to participating in that.

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by pacala »

Ididntdothis wrote: post #50
pacala wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Therein lies the problem. As the machine scales larger and larger, the cogs at the bottom have worse and worse conditions. Almost as if 'software is eating the world' is not the key to unlock Utopia, as techno-optimists would have you believe.

It was always that way. It used to be that nobility lived the good life at the expense of the peasants. Now we have replaced nobility with educated office workers. And the system is set up that if you are part of the top x percent you will never have to see how the bottom lives. They are well hidden.

Not at this scale. Not at the scale where the nobility lives in NYC/SF/Shanghai and the peasants live in a different state or even overseas.

Re: Amazon locks down internal employee communications amid organizing efforts

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Post by retrac »

Some comments here really had me scratching my head. Remember, it's not just engineers, code monkeys and managers at Amazon.

The majority of their employees are unskilled labour. Warehouse workers and delivery drivers. An Amazon warehouse worker in Canada makes just a little more than minimum wage. Even if it might be a nice company to work for if you're in an office, it may be a very different reality for the majority of workers.

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