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Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by dpfu »

Tepix wrote: post #158

Funny anecdote: Apple offers a trade-in when buying a new Macbook. I decided to have a look. I entered the serial number of my Macbook Air 11" (Late 2010). I confirmed that it boots up, has no defects, has no optical faults and that I will include the power supply. Apple offered 10€ ($12). Yay?! PS: This ancient notebook runs macOS High Sierra with the current 2020-2 security patch and sells for an astonishing 200€ o…

I tried with my current MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2018). Apple offered 240€. Well.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by SparkleBunny »

sturza wrote: post #317
curiousgal wrote: post #13

Another year, another laughable release with the same BS language trying to dazzle "Pro" wanna-be's. There is nothing Pro about these machines.

if 32 GB is not “pro”, i don’t know if we have the same understanding about what “pro” means

I have 64GB in my Thinkpad P71. I got it ~2 years ago. Why so much ram? I make money with this beast. How's your Starbucks?

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by sixothree »

neuronic wrote: post #402
uberduper wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering the same. My wife has an i5, 16GB, 256GB air showing up today. At the same price of the base 13 pro, I think the air is the better buy. I don't understand why they still sell anything with < 16GB ram in the base config.

This and "why is it DDR3 and therefore why is it a Gen8 CPU?" and "why is the storage so bad?" (256GB base is doubled now but still laughable) and "why cant you just drop the useless TouchBar or at least offer that option?" and maybe also "why do we have 1" bezels in 2020?"

"with standard storage starting at 256GB all the way up to 1TB"

This has to be a joke right?

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by diffeomorphism »

alexggordon wrote: post #125

I was curious how the 13 inch was priced so I compared it to a new Dell XPS 13. Dell has a better processor (maybe, [2]) , but I couldn't find the option to upgrade the Dell to 4TB internal SSD, so I compared both with the 2 TB option. Ram is the same at 32GB. Dell came out to $2399[0] USD and Apple came out to $2999[1] USD. Dell Pros: * Row of function buttons (I've used BTT to customize my touch-bar to the point wh…

Dell:

* Much higher resolution screen (3840x2400 vs 2560x1600)

* Smaller and lighter (not by much though) and thinner bezels

* Better hardware support (apple hardware has bad support under anything but macOS and I can't think of any hardware which is supported under mac but not on windows).

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by switch007 »

fnord123 wrote: post #440
alexggordon wrote: post #125

I was curious how the 13 inch was priced so I compared it to a new Dell XPS 13. Dell has a better processor (maybe, [2]) , but I couldn't find the option to upgrade the Dell to 4TB internal SSD, so I compared both with the 2 TB option. Ram is the same at 32GB. Dell came out to $2399[0] USD and Apple came out to $2999[1] USD. Dell Pros: * Row of function buttons (I've used BTT to customize my touch-bar to the point wh…

The macbook still electrocutes you when it's plugged in since the grounding is all fucked up. This is still a problem: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3969131 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-pro-giving-me-e... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/10545/is-it-bad-th...

Every Apple device I've owned has done this (iPad, iPhone, MacBook) :/

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by bcrosby95 »

mr_custard wrote: post #444
lwh wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dell has supported Linux officially on the XPS 13 variants since 2012. https://bartongeorge.io/2020/01/01/introducing-the-2020-xps-...

Thanks. I'm am aware of this. I research this all the time, and regularly come away disappointed. I don't know if I verbalised clearly enough, but I have actively wanted good options for years, and I'm always open to whatever alternatives are current at the time of purchase. Seriously, I'm in the market for a new laptop and there are still too many concerns relating to support for these devices... not just Dell but u…

I switched from a macbook to a system76 laptop around 6 years ago and the only negative I noticed functionality-wise was the worse trackpad. But I would guess that different users are sensitive to different problems.

E.g. power management isn't much of an issue for me because I use my laptop unplugged for only a couple hours per day, so I wouldn't have noticed any problems related to that.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by throwaway888abc »

cHaOs667 wrote: post #309
tw04 wrote: post #197

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After several years I can unequivocally say I still hate the touch bar. I love touch ID, but the bar needs to go. USB-C was all about standardizing. I'm still not sure how I feel about it, I did love magsafe, but I also love that in theory someday I'll have one cable to rule them all. And I'll be able to charge my headphones/laptop/phone/random device with a usb-c cable instead of needing 8 of them.

I HATE the touch bar. I simply H A T E it. I hate it so much that I started to carry an TKL keyboard all the time with me just to avoid using this piece of sh*t touch bar and internal keyboard (MBP 2017). As a developer it is crucial that I can use my keyboard without any looks but as there is no way to tell which function key you press on the touch bar the bar itself is completely useless for me. Beside the butterfl…

I'm using the F-keys to switch workspaces on the fly. I can't imagine going back. Pass on Mac.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by nbrempel »

I’ve been a Big Mac user for the last 7 years or so. I initially moved over from Linux after experiencing the ease of the OSX operating system when working in software development without the overhead of maintaining something like Arch Linux.

I’m now looking at system76 and Pop!_OS for my next machine. They seem to be doing a really good job of creating compelling hardware and software that works well together. From the sounds of it, Pop!_OS does a really good job creating that Apple “just works” experience without all the cruft.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by reaperducer »

AdamCraven wrote: post #347
jmull wrote: post #273

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It probably actually costs them money, when all is done, to take that machine and get rid of it in a reasonably responsible way.

Perhaps, but it reduces the size of the secondary market so consumers have less choice and may opt for a new one instead. This is the real advantage to Apple.

Is there a secondary market for a ten-year-old MacBook Air?

I use a nine-year-old Air almost daily, but I don't think the vast majority of people would consider it viable, let alone pay for one.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by reaperducer »

dan1234 wrote: post #223
Tepix wrote: post #158

Funny anecdote: Apple offers a trade-in when buying a new Macbook. I decided to have a look. I entered the serial number of my Macbook Air 11" (Late 2010). I confirmed that it boots up, has no defects, has no optical faults and that I will include the power supply. Apple offered 10€ ($12). Yay?! PS: This ancient notebook runs macOS High Sierra with the current 2020-2 security patch and sells for an astonishing 200€ o…

I tried with my 2015 MBP, and was offered £180 by Apple. The average eBay price for the same model seems to be around £450, so the eBay route would be worth the risk for me. Also, when selling second hand, at least I know it's being reused not just recycled.

The average eBay price for the same model seems to be around £450

Sale price, or asking price?

The average fleaBay asking price for a TRS-80 Model 100 is $1,200. But the actual average selling price is closer to $100.

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