Interesting to see that coding is recognised on the landing page, something that a lot of people here thought that Apple tried to distance from.
>there is still no physical escape key Yes there is, it's clearly there in every picture of the keyboard.
New 13-inch MacBook Pro
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Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro
#32Just a spec bump and addition of the Magic Keyboard. Sure, 10th gen CPU and up to 4TB/32GB, but no 6-core CPU, no 14" screen. A lot of people are going to be disappointed.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps, but show me build quality on the same level in the PC world. Even though I find Apple lagging behind it's previous standards in build quality, it's still better that most in the PC world. (I'm still on a mid 2015 MBP and completely content to stay with it.)
Dell XPS 15.
Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro
#34Is it just me or is Apple starting to fall woefully behind non-mac hardware competitors in both price and perf? I used to look forward to these announcements, now it's just 'we upgraded to a +1 generation config (still 1-2 generations behind what others are doing), that'll be 2000 bucks thanks'. Advertising 4 cores and 2018 Iris graphics as if it's some kind of achievement, when competitors have full dGpu solutions a…
Well, competitors are still behind Apple. They offer worse touchpad, worse screens (it's either 16:9 or weird resolution), no macOS, worse speakers, worse microphone, worse battery.
They don't have the TrackPoint, only glossy screens, not even 16:9, no Linux support, only one battery instead of two replacable ones, and so on.
Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro
#35Good that they went for more less the same setup as in 16 inch model. The escape key and old keyboard switches really do make the difference for me.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, competitors are still behind Apple. They offer worse touchpad, worse screens (it's either 16:9 or weird resolution), no macOS, worse speakers, worse microphone, worse battery.
No sure that no macOS makes competitors objectively worse.
It's changing with Linux and WSL, but can't blame people to stay with macOS if it works for them.
Personally I'm using linux and thinkpad, but even x1 carbon falls short to MacBooks in areas I mentioned before.
Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro
#37Is it just me or is Apple starting to fall woefully behind non-mac hardware competitors in both price and perf? I used to look forward to these announcements, now it's just 'we upgraded to a +1 generation config (still 1-2 generations behind what others are doing), that'll be 2000 bucks thanks'. Advertising 4 cores and 2018 Iris graphics as if it's some kind of achievement, when competitors have full dGpu solutions a…
Perhaps, but show me build quality on the same level in the PC world. Even though I find Apple lagging behind it's previous standards in build quality, it's still better that most in the PC world. (I'm still on a mid 2015 MBP and completely content to stay with it.)
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#38Also, the base CPU is an 8th gen chip, you need to fork out a lot of extra $$$ to get to 10th gen.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, competitors are still behind Apple. They offer worse touchpad, worse screens (it's either 16:9 or weird resolution), no macOS, worse speakers, worse microphone, worse battery.
No sure that no macOS makes competitors objectively worse.
Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro
#40I just looked to check. Still no physical Fn keys, still shallow butterfly keyboard. That's a pass. Hopefully Apple comes to its senses some day and creates a computer that is designed for actual work, where a single beard follicle is not going to make it unusable midday.
The Magic Keyboard uses scissor switches, not butterfly.
My last one is T440s which I bought immediately it was available and still wait for it to die. I would like a MBP but seeing what the Thinkpad went through I just don't think so. I spilled stuff on it not once but twice, once hot latte and once a liter of mineral water in a bag. I had to open it and stand it on its side while open so that water drains out of it... Then I had to disassemble it and dry individual leaves of which the screen is composed of.
I had to take the rest of the day off in both cases to save my laptop but other than that I was ready for work the next day, files intact, tools in place.