New 13-inch MacBook Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by aldanor » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:46 PM UTC

shawndellysse wrote: post #8

So glad they finally got rid of the butterfly keyboard! That said, I cannot wait until they retire the Touch Bar.

And add the Esc to iPad keyboards while they're at it

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by bluedino » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:46 PM UTC

shawndellysse wrote: post #8

So glad they finally got rid of the butterfly keyboard! That said, I cannot wait until they retire the Touch Bar.

The Air has a perfectly sane keyboard.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by curiousgal » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:46 PM UTC

Another year, another laughable release with the same BS language trying to dazzle "Pro" wanna-be's. There is nothing Pro about these machines.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by calin2k » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:47 PM UTC

So now all the MacBook Pro 13's have no physical function keys?

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by ly » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:47 PM UTC

Interesting to see they upgraded the RAM, but still kept it LPDDR3, even though all other Macs have DDR4 (except for the MacBook Air, which as LPDDR4X). At this price point I would honestly expect DDR4 in a "Pro" machine.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by pandatigox » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:47 PM UTC

Interesting to see that coding is recognised on the landing page, something that a lot of people here thought that Apple tried to distance from.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by nickcox » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:47 PM UTC

tsar9x wrote: post #6

missosoup wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is Apple starting to fall woefully behind non-mac hardware competitors in both price and perf? I used to look forward to these announcements, now it's just 'we upgraded to a +1 generation config (still 1-2 generations behind what others are doing), that'll be 2000 bucks thanks'. Advertising 4 cores and 2018 Iris graphics as if it's some kind of achievement, when competitors have full dGpu solutions a…

Well, competitors are still behind Apple. They offer worse touchpad, worse screens (it's either 16:9 or weird resolution), no macOS, worse speakers, worse microphone, worse battery.

No sure that no macOS makes competitors objectively worse.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by thathndude » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:47 PM UTC

Disappointed we didn't see a 14" in a 13.3" body, or anything otherwise exciting here.

I for one prefer the butterfly keyboard. So the magic keyboard is at best a neutral move (I think a downgrade). For those folks who loathe the butterfly, I'm sure they'll be delighted at a 13" with the new magic keyboard. For me, it looks like the 2018 will continue to be on my desk. Happy that I maxed it at time of purchase.

Maybe an ARM Macbook in 2021 is in my future.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by jbverschoor » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:48 PM UTC

:/... no 14”. Still not a a proper FaceTime camera. Maybe they’ll announce something during wwdc

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by curiousgal » Mon, May 04, 2020, 12:48 PM UTC

explorigin wrote: post #5

missosoup wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is Apple starting to fall woefully behind non-mac hardware competitors in both price and perf? I used to look forward to these announcements, now it's just 'we upgraded to a +1 generation config (still 1-2 generations behind what others are doing), that'll be 2000 bucks thanks'. Advertising 4 cores and 2018 Iris graphics as if it's some kind of achievement, when competitors have full dGpu solutions a…

Perhaps, but show me build quality on the same level in the PC world. Even though I find Apple lagging behind it's previous standards in build quality, it's still better that most in the PC world. (I'm still on a mid 2015 MBP and completely content to stay with it.)

Dell XPS 15.