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Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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> You can buy most of the parts directly from a reseller like Amazon or McMaster-Carr, but for some you’ll need to get them custom manufactured for you. The custom parts include the carbon fiber routed parts, the 3D printed parts, the power distribution printed circuit board, and the motors. Very cool and I would like to build this, but the "Nano Dog" is probably a cheaper and more approachable option for the garage…

I wasn't able to find any examples of this quadruped walking.

I'd be amazed if you found any doing a dynamic gait with closed loop control. One problem with making legged robots smaller is that you drastically increase the reaction speed required for any kind of closed loop control.

Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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> You can buy most of the parts directly from a reseller like Amazon or McMaster-Carr, but for some you’ll need to get them custom manufactured for you. The custom parts include the carbon fiber routed parts, the 3D printed parts, the power distribution printed circuit board, and the motors. Very cool and I would like to build this, but the "Nano Dog" is probably a cheaper and more approachable option for the garage…

the parts list for the puppet is a joke everything is overkill for no reason you could easily do it for 200 same size and function

Well don't be shy, post some videos of your $200 quadruped showing off its flexible dynamic gait performance.

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> the "Nano Dog" is probably a cheaper and more approachable option for the garage engineer. Hard to find out much about that or OpenDog in general. I've found videos and 3d printer files but nothing that I can read to understand what it can do and why I might want to build it. Or do I really have to watch a bunch of YouTube videos? I hate video. Have I missed the actual project page somehow?

https://github.com/XRobots/miniDogV2 The code's a bit of a mess -- James is clearly not a software engineer first. This is totally understandable, given that he does so many other things! When I first saw the code, I thought about doing a refactoring pass and making a pull request. It would be painful to test correctness without the hardware, and I don't want to make things worse, so I haven't.

As someone who also isn't a SWE first, what are the changes you'd make and where can one learn to code in a more SWE way?

Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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the parts list for the puppet is a joke everything is overkill for no reason you could easily do it for 200 same size and function

I've built several servo powered walking robots. Torque is a major concern, and obviously weight plays a part in how much torque is required. The recommended servos look to be $30 each, x12 means $360. If you spent $200 just on servos you'd have to settle for $16 servos. Probably less torque. That would mean that at full leg extension the robot might not be able to support itself. That would be an annoyance when tryi…

> You can definitely do something for cheaper

If the 35kg is in fact needed (which I’m not prepared to debate, probably needed, but I can’t prove / disprove), you are exactly right. Yes, you could maybe save a couple dollars with cheaper servo brands, but honestly for a 35kg servo, you’re going to pay a decent amount for 12 of them.

Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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Hey all, my group in Stanford Student Robotics made Pupper. Happy to answer any questions!

Awesome project Nathan, kudos to the team. I'd love to use the Stanford Pupper at some point for K-12 outreach efforts myself. I reviewed your power distribution board. I think it needs more safety features before it can safely be entrusted to the hands of K-12 kids. Couple of comments: - The battery input is unfused. I would HIGHLY recommend adding one. - I know you guys wrote in Github about how people should not p…

I can't emphasize enough how much overvoltage, overcurrent, and reverse polarity protection has saved me when wiring stuff.

Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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Hey all, my group in Stanford Student Robotics made Pupper. Happy to answer any questions!

Great project, thanks! Is Pupper in any way related to this quadraped robot here [1] — or do they just have a similar looking physical architecture? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnEtJSkUFDk

Martin's robot was definitely an inspiration. As far as I know he was the first one to figure out how to make cheap, nonbackdrivable servo motors work for dynamic quadruped movement. Wouldn't have started the project without seeing his videos.

Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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Hey all, my group in Stanford Student Robotics made Pupper. Happy to answer any questions!

Awesome project! I'd love to build one, except for sourcing the parts - esp. the carbon fibre (out-of-stock) bits! If your team sold it as a kit I'd be your first customer! Of course, you'd have to ship to Canada too. Q. Was there a price point you had to aim for in the development (i.e. under $1K)? And, if you were to double the price, what improvements would you make (e.g. even better servos)?

Hi Canada_dry, We are selling Pupper kits now. Please check out our website link below If you have any questions you can can contact us at:cypresssoftware@gmail.com

https://cypress-software-inc.myshopify.com/

Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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Awesome project! I'd love to build one, except for sourcing the parts - esp. the carbon fibre (out-of-stock) bits! If your team sold it as a kit I'd be your first customer! Of course, you'd have to ship to Canada too. Q. Was there a price point you had to aim for in the development (i.e. under $1K)? And, if you were to double the price, what improvements would you make (e.g. even better servos)?

Hi Canada_dry, We are selling Pupper kits now. Please check out our website link below If you have any questions you can can contact us at:cypresssoftware@gmail.com https://cypress-software-inc.myshopify.com/

Awesome! Emailed you with some questions.

Re: Stanford Pupper: low-cost quadruped robot

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I've built several servo powered walking robots. Torque is a major concern, and obviously weight plays a part in how much torque is required. The recommended servos look to be $30 each, x12 means $360. If you spent $200 just on servos you'd have to settle for $16 servos. Probably less torque. That would mean that at full leg extension the robot might not be able to support itself. That would be an annoyance when tryi…

> You can definitely do something for cheaper If the 35kg is in fact needed (which I’m not prepared to debate, probably needed, but I can’t prove / disprove), you are exactly right. Yes, you could maybe save a couple dollars with cheaper servo brands, but honestly for a 35kg servo, you’re going to pay a decent amount for 12 of them.

Yes and I noticed this robot can jump completely off the ground. Pretty nice!
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