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How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by teddyh »

code_duck wrote: post #70
Stierlitz wrote: post #60

I've noticed the same with web-able apps, you spend time typing-up some missive and then it freezes and refreshing the page loses it all. Could linux write everything to a file every 30 seconds. A bit like a keylogger, only you know it is there.

There used to be a Firefox add-on called Lazarus that did this. https://www.pcworld.com/article/227948/Firefox.html From Tom's Hardware: "Lazarus: Form Recovery is a free downloadable Add-On for the Firefox web browser that automatically saves everything you type into forms of web pages you visit. With Lazarus: Form Recovery, you will never lose what you write after a crash the browser or other technical problems. In…

I’ve found that this can replace Lazarus in modern Firefox:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/form-history-...

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by leephillips »

thedanbob wrote: post #7

Does anyone know of a good Linux email client that isn’t crippled by show-stopping bugs of this sort? I used Mailspring for a while, which has a nice modern interface, but quit after discovering that my drafts were only saved locally, not on the server. This has been an open bug for at least two years. In the end I’ve always fallen back to Thunderbird as the least bad option.

I've used several, on linux and MacOS, and gmail. Now I use mutt, and am happy. Nothing else comes close. But the author writes that he needs integration with cardDAV, or something. I don't know if mutt can do that.

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by saagarjha »

therealmarv wrote: post #10

nano ftw. Modern web email clients have this since a long time and Gmail never crashed internally for me ;)

I use nano, but I have to say I am very surprised that they mentioned it as a viewer for large binary files. It reads the entire file off of disk into memory and then tries to split it into lines! It can't even do well on files with large enough lines :(

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by saagarjha »

OJFord wrote: post #56
b212 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Linux for what it is, for the whole idea, being open, free and "democratic" but I tried using it while my Macbok was in service and oh boy, it's like having a Hackintosh 10 years ago, for work it was bearable but for "personal use"? I'd rather pay 5x more for something that "just works". And I did.

My personal machine runs Linux because my professional experience is that macOS doesn't 'just work', and Linux is easier and less opaque to fix. I don't want to trawl through 'have you tried turning it off and on again' on Apple support forums, I want to find the text-based config solution in the Arch wiki, a man page, or unix.SE. (Yes that order, not `man` first, typically. 'Sue me'. Other than for executables I don…

The name apparently comes from "Version 7 AT&T UNIX", which is where the page first appeared.

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by d2wa »

saagarjha wrote: post #73
therealmarv wrote: post #10

nano ftw. Modern web email clients have this since a long time and Gmail never crashed internally for me ;)

I use nano, but I have to say I am very surprised that they mentioned it as a viewer for large binary files. It reads the entire file off of disk into memory and then tries to split it into lines! It can't even do well on files with large enough lines :(

Nano reads large files in chunks. Other text editors do indeed pull in the entire file before doing anything useful.

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by pabs3 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #55
d2wa wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Person/author here. Yes, I have considered other email clients. Evolution is the least bad of the available options and still sees active development. Most other clients don’t support CardDAV or LDAP so I can’t sync my address book. An email client is mostly useless without the contact details of the people want to contact. Newscommers to the email client market have all been proprietary subscription-based middleware…

Have you looked at Geary? I haven't personally used it, I just know that it shares a lineage (?) with the elementaryOS project, and they seem to be making great stuff.

elementaryOS' mail client is now a separate implementation to Geary and is based on libraries that underly the Evolution mail client.

https://github.com/elementary/mail

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by pabs3 »

petepete wrote: post #16
thedanbob wrote: post #7

Does anyone know of a good Linux email client that isn’t crippled by show-stopping bugs of this sort? I used Mailspring for a while, which has a nice modern interface, but quit after discovering that my drafts were only saved locally, not on the server. This has been an open bug for at least two years. In the end I’ve always fallen back to Thunderbird as the least bad option.

Have you tried Geary? I helped a colleague get set up with ElementaryOS a while back and it looked really nice and, compared to Evolution, was much lighter and faster. I haven't used it in anger though, I tend to stick to email in the browser these days.

ElementaryOS now have a new email client that uses the Evolution libraries but has a Geary-like interface:

https://github.com/elementary/mail

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by pabs3 »

teddyh wrote: post #71
code_duck wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There used to be a Firefox add-on called Lazarus that did this. https://www.pcworld.com/article/227948/Firefox.html From Tom's Hardware: "Lazarus: Form Recovery is a free downloadable Add-On for the Firefox web browser that automatically saves everything you type into forms of web pages you visit. With Lazarus: Form Recovery, you will never lose what you write after a crash the browser or other technical problems. In…

I’ve found that this can replace Lazarus in modern Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/form-history-...

Thats really buggy with Firefox ESR, Mozilla are adding more WebExt APIs to make it work better though so hopefully it will work at some point.

Re: How I recovered a lost email from my email client’s memory

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

pabs3 wrote: post #77
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at Geary? I haven't personally used it, I just know that it shares a lineage (?) with the elementaryOS project, and they seem to be making great stuff.

elementaryOS' mail client is now a separate implementation to Geary and is based on libraries that underly the Evolution mail client. https://github.com/elementary/mail

Yep, but my understanding was the Geary's lineage was the same in that both projects originally grew up together before elementary decided to change direction. Not true?
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