The lossy compression on phone calls might prevent fax from working. Also, I don't know if you can route call audio from anywhere other than the microphone.
HQ audio quality (over 4G) is markedly better than land lines, and the fax protocol has had error correction since digital formats were adopted in the 60s and 70s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax My Palm Pilot (with a CDPD backpack) and candybar 2G Nokia could both send FAXes. I suspect there's no demand.
Ask HN: Why can't I send faxes from my phone?
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#13Some gsm phones had the ability to transmit a fax but they actually used a different protocol to talk to a fax gateway. I never saw one of these in the wild.
I haven’t been in that “biz” for a couple of decades but nowadays a different approach will be used anyway (pdf via IP to a fax gateway -> POTS)
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#14To send a fax you need access to a handhshaked landline. A direct wire between the stations. Faxes synchronize themselves, send data and test the bit, makeing sure it is properlt placed in the data queue, and send the next and so on =handshake. Suggest you look up old fax synchronization and I tossed my last muirhead rotary in 1982 - used it for weather maps. https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/fax/history-…
Re: Ask HN: Why can't I send faxes from my phone?
#15To send a fax you need access to a handhshaked landline. A direct wire between the stations. Faxes synchronize themselves, send data and test the bit, makeing sure it is properlt placed in the data queue, and send the next and so on =handshake. Suggest you look up old fax synchronization and I tossed my last muirhead rotary in 1982 - used it for weather maps. https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/fax/history-…
What exactly makes this "hard via radio"?
Re: Ask HN: Why can't I send faxes from my phone?
#16Give our API a shot and shoot me a note for some extra credits as a h/t to a fellow HNer. (See profile for email.)
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#17The lossy compression on phone calls might prevent fax from working. Also, I don't know if you can route call audio from anywhere other than the microphone.
HQ audio quality (over 4G) is markedly better than land lines, and the fax protocol has had error correction since digital formats were adopted in the 60s and 70s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax My Palm Pilot (with a CDPD backpack) and candybar 2G Nokia could both send FAXes. I suspect there's no demand.
From an engineering perspective, having a billion cellphones faithfully transmitting info on frequencies humans can’t hear is simply wasteful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Multi-Rate_audio_code...
“AMR was adopted as the standard speech codec by 3GPP in October 1999 and is now widely used in GSM[5] and UMTS.”
Re: Ask HN: Why can't I send faxes from my phone?
#18Founder of Phaxio here. Doing fax well is an annoying problem because the protocols are finicy and the carriers don't usually want to spend time troubleshooting issues. Give our API a shot and shoot me a note for some extra credits as a h/t to a fellow HNer. (See profile for email.)
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#20The fax requires a 56KHz channel which has not been used for mobile telephony since the 1980s (when AMPS and GSM were developed. Before then it was just a radio link through an operator). That’s why you can’t use a high speed modem either. Some gsm phones had the ability to transmit a fax but they actually used a different protocol to talk to a fax gateway. I never saw one of these in the wild. I haven’t been in that…
IIRC from the water cooler talk, one of the remaining customers was a lighthouse, that had to send a daily report, things like that.