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Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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There is so much to unpack in your high effort, low value comment. Google the game, watch some "let's play"s. Keep your weird "housewives" stereotypes to yourself, its 2020.

> Keep your weird "housewives" stereotypes to yourself, its 2020. FYI, I'm a house-husband. Imagine the stereotype, and yes, that's me. Stereotypes are useful. I know what games my mother-in-law plays, and what games appeal to her (bejewelled, etc) and others like her. These wonderful people do exist... they make up a lot of the generation that made us, much as you'd rather like to sweep them under the carpet. They h…

It's a great game if you like "vibing" instead of "striving". It's an alternate reality to partially immerse yourself in whose gameplay loop, if you can call it that, revolves around obtaining different cosmetic customization items and curating the physical and social aesthetic of a virtual island community. My girlfriend adores it but it hasn't been able to keep my attention for more than a couple of days.

Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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I've seen a lot of posts recently about "Animal Crossing" that lead me to believe it's some kind of game. Does anyone on here play it? If so, could you provide a review in under 5 paragraphs? Assume you are writing for the benefit of people who aren't kids or housewives (apply whatever backwards negative stereotype you can think of to that term).

Apparently the hivemind disagrees, but I thought it was a worthwhile comment. Sure you could probably just look it up, but sometimes direct replies from people are better for getting at the essence of things.

The better way to phrase the comment would have been, "I've seen a lot of people posting about this game, but a quick google search doesn't really help me understand what it's all about. Can someone here who has played it give me their take?"

That's a reasonable comment minus the several patronizing and snide remarks.

Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently the hivemind disagrees, but I thought it was a worthwhile comment. Sure you could probably just look it up, but sometimes direct replies from people are better for getting at the essence of things.

The better way to phrase the comment would have been, "I've seen a lot of people posting about this game, but a quick google search doesn't really help me understand what it's all about. Can someone here who has played it give me their take?" That's a reasonable comment minus the several patronizing and snide remarks.

It also avoids the performative "I don't know what this is." that is either a flat-out lie or a stubborn refusal to spend 10 seconds in google to see that it is in fact a game.

Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is so much to unpack in your high effort, low value comment. Google the game, watch some "let's play"s. Keep your weird "housewives" stereotypes to yourself, its 2020.

> Keep your weird "housewives" stereotypes to yourself, its 2020. FYI, I'm a house-husband. Imagine the stereotype, and yes, that's me. Stereotypes are useful. I know what games my mother-in-law plays, and what games appeal to her (bejewelled, etc) and others like her. These wonderful people do exist... they make up a lot of the generation that made us, much as you'd rather like to sweep them under the carpet. They h…

Not sure what that tribe is. As you seem to be serious, and insistent, my perception of the game was that it was rather limited. Most of the enjoyment comes from the social interactions it offers.

Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is so much to unpack in your high effort, low value comment. Google the game, watch some "let's play"s. Keep your weird "housewives" stereotypes to yourself, its 2020.

> Keep your weird "housewives" stereotypes to yourself, its 2020. FYI, I'm a house-husband. Imagine the stereotype, and yes, that's me. Stereotypes are useful. I know what games my mother-in-law plays, and what games appeal to her (bejewelled, etc) and others like her. These wonderful people do exist... they make up a lot of the generation that made us, much as you'd rather like to sweep them under the carpet. They h…

Some feedback, and maybe I'm feeding the troll here, but in case I'm not:

It doesn't read like you are asking in good faith. It reads like you are punching down at Animal Crossing fans. (And I certainly read your first comment as insinuating that people who like the game are 'kids or housewives'.)

You explicitly ask the reader to apply backwards negative stereotypes to the concept of housewives. Then go on to defend the efficacy of those (backward, negative) stereotypes. It reads to me like you are deliberately baiting your reader.

> I want the perspective of people in "my tribe"

We aren't your tribe. HN readership comes from all walks. You are as likely to run into a plumber as you are a CEO, a libertarian or a socialist, an evangelical or queer person, etc. etc. People on this board generally generally disagree about many topics, often aggressively. I think it's probably dangerous to make 'in jokes', or assume a friendly/helpful response, because we're really all strangers here who loosely coalesced around a loose notion of the hacker ethos.

Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently the hivemind disagrees, but I thought it was a worthwhile comment. Sure you could probably just look it up, but sometimes direct replies from people are better for getting at the essence of things.

The better way to phrase the comment would have been, "I've seen a lot of people posting about this game, but a quick google search doesn't really help me understand what it's all about. Can someone here who has played it give me their take?" That's a reasonable comment minus the several patronizing and snide remarks.

I took it as him not being particularly great at asking questions. I agree your wording is better.

Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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One detail I didn’t see that affects the risk profile is that every island in AC is their own market and you can buy and sell turnips on other people’s islands. You can afford to be far more risky than the model suggests if you have a few friends or an active Discord group because on any given day you can almost surely find an island with a profitable price if you need it in a pinch.

See also the Turnip Exchange[0], which has set up automated queue systems for people to visit other people's islands to buy and sell turnips, and now appears to be expanding into other AC:NH trade.

It's been super impressive to watch how quickly the devs there have built out really useful features, and managed the growth in interest - pretty sure the Turnip Exchange Discord is >22,000 people.

[0]: https://turnip.exchange/

Re: Speculating on the Animal Crossing Turnip Market

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I was surprised that there was no mention of the secretary problem [1]. Optimal stopping has a whole host of problems and means of evaluating them [2]. I'm curious how this solution compares to just using the 1/e rule.

Generally, the 1/e rule in this situation implies you should evaluate prices until Wednesday afternoon for the max sell price up to that point, and then sell the next time you see a price higher than that max (or Saturday afternoon whichever comes first). You won't always get the best price this way, but you'll perform better than any other know strategy. This strategy works with friends, too, as you can account for their prices in this strategy.

The only reason this may not be the best strategy here is that there are ways of having some information about future prices.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimal_stopping

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