Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
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Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#2Main point of the article (quoted):
> In 2017, Tim Cook came as close as he ever has to publicly addressing the issue. "In the US," he said, "you could have a meeting of tooling engineers, and I'm not sure you could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields."
One possible reason for this is that US education is generally broad compared to other countries. No one in America majors in "tool engineering" but a mechanical engineer could certainly be trained for the job. In other countries such as Germany and China you're more likely to follow a more narrow path (for better or worse).
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#3Main point of the article (quoted): > In 2017, Tim Cook came as close as he ever has to publicly addressing the issue. "In the US," he said, "you could have a meeting of tooling engineers, and I'm not sure you could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields." One possible reason for this is that US education is generally broad compared to other countries. No one in America majors in "tool engin…
Isn't there an obvious reason? The US outsourced everything physical to other countries. You can fill stadiums in the US with finance, marketing, software, and business experts.
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#4Why should we care if Americans are teaching the next generation of Americans, as opposed to the next generation of Chinese? Imagine if someone said we should reserve American universities for our own people instead of giving slots to foreign students. That would immediately be condemned as xenophobic racism, and I don't see how this is any different.
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#5The US needs to improve its immigration system so that it can hire these smart engineers, from places like Europe in particular.
Right now, the current H1B system is totally dominated by Indians, who make up 70% of the intake. The scheme seems designed to undercut American salaries, rather than enhance American companies with highly skilled workers.
The scheme should be redesigned with a higher minimum salary, and a maximum of 10% of the intake from any one country.
And yes, the education system needs to change. Education should not be an 'export' - knowledge should be retained inside the nation, not sold off to foreign competitors. International students should only be accepted from America's closest allies.
Heck, education and immigration could just be overhauled to be NATO-only, with selected highly developed NATO partner countries as well.
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#6The US needs to improve its immigration system so that it can hire these smart engineers, from places like Europe in particular. Right now, the current H1B system is totally dominated by Indians, who make up 70% of the intake. The scheme seems designed to undercut American salaries, rather than enhance American companies with highly skilled workers. The scheme should be redesigned with a higher minimum salary, and a…
Why should there be a limit on intake from any one country? Let companies hire who can get the job done. Else, they'll set up shop in those countries and just import the work for a cheaper rate.
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#7The US needs to improve its immigration system so that it can hire these smart engineers, from places like Europe in particular. Right now, the current H1B system is totally dominated by Indians, who make up 70% of the intake. The scheme seems designed to undercut American salaries, rather than enhance American companies with highly skilled workers. The scheme should be redesigned with a higher minimum salary, and a…
There's nothing in the article to imply that these "smart engineers" exist in Europe, is there? Nor is there anything to imply that the US education system has the ability to produce them.
But they certainly exist, and are being trained, in China.
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#8The US needs to improve its immigration system so that it can hire these smart engineers, from places like Europe in particular. Right now, the current H1B system is totally dominated by Indians, who make up 70% of the intake. The scheme seems designed to undercut American salaries, rather than enhance American companies with highly skilled workers. The scheme should be redesigned with a higher minimum salary, and a…
People ask me why I don't want programmer unions. This is why. This will be in the top 5 things on their agenda.
Not interested in making America some sort of loser fiefdom operated by the inadequate who need regulation because they cannot compete. No way.
Besides, if Europe is so great, maybe there would be this massive collection of great tech companies there. Instead, 49 square miles in America has produced more economic value in tech than any European city.
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#9The US needs to improve its immigration system so that it can hire these smart engineers, from places like Europe in particular. Right now, the current H1B system is totally dominated by Indians, who make up 70% of the intake. The scheme seems designed to undercut American salaries, rather than enhance American companies with highly skilled workers. The scheme should be redesigned with a higher minimum salary, and a…
A ton of amazing engineers and founders are born in India, China, and South East Asia also many from Eastern Europe and Russia. How would limiting the migration of these people help the USA or companies founded in the USA?
NATO is a military alliance between democratic and semi-democratic governments it does not represent a framework for any sort of education based immigration system.
Re: Apple still depends on traditional American engineers, and is slowly losing them
#10The US needs to improve its immigration system so that it can hire these smart engineers, from places like Europe in particular. Right now, the current H1B system is totally dominated by Indians, who make up 70% of the intake. The scheme seems designed to undercut American salaries, rather than enhance American companies with highly skilled workers. The scheme should be redesigned with a higher minimum salary, and a…
People ask me why I don't want programmer unions. This is why. This will be in the top 5 things on their agenda. Not interested in making America some sort of loser fiefdom operated by the inadequate who need regulation because they cannot compete. No way. Besides, if Europe is so great, maybe there would be this massive collection of great tech companies there. Instead, 49 square miles in America has produced more e…
Has it? Or is that like saying 2500 square miles of Delaware has produced more economic value than half the globe, let alone the rest of the US?