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Sounds like a solid decision from Canonical tbh. Certificate substitution is terrible.
For a consumer, sure. In a business setting, it seems irresponsible to be to allow every random server to have an un-inspectable VPN.
As a server OS I've really found it useful.
(Except for that time when they shipped buggy versions of high-availability tools, warned against by the upstream maintainers, which segfaulted occasionally and showed inconsistent state across different nodes - thanks :/)
I found it an improvement over Debian. And that an improvement over Red Hat (before it was RHEL and Fedora). And that an improvement over Slackware. CentOS and RHEL got used too in parallel on some sites, and were very solid, but with their own annoyances.
But recently, on the server, LXD (aka LXC 2) switched from being a .deb package to being a Snap. They made a policy decision to stop shipping the .deb, to force server admins to start using Snap whether they wanted to or not, I guess.
So I was forced to use Snap just to run LXD, which was annoying as things like configs and paths to the container images are buried inside the Snap somewhere, and various things with container-uids and host-container shared mounts stopped working. At least, the upgrade broke a bunch of working scripts.
But it wasn't too painful, just a bit of work that felt like it was caused by an unnecessary annoyance.
Ironically given other comments, the Snap does not seem to auto-update unlike all the other .debs on the system!
Now, hearing about Ubuntu 20.04 and application snaps, I'm extra cautious before assuming Ubuntu 20.04 Server will be a smooth change. I'll take a look, and if the server software is much like 18.04 (except for annoying LXD) I'll use 20.04.
But if they've moved a lot of things away from .deb to Snaps-only on the server, that's going to be some overhead to deal with, and it will at least result in evaluating whether switching distro is no more effort and a better choice.
I've not been a fan of CentOS, but that time I was burned by the high-availability tools due to Ubuntu (and Debian) shipping a dangerously buggy version in an LTS release did make me realise that RHEL/CentOS are well maintained in that department and just wouldn't do that.
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>Given an option regular users will never update their computers, perhaps partly due to fear of what they don't understand, fear of change, or maybe due to past bad update experiences. You make it sound like an irrational fear but there's a real cost/benefit ratio to consider when you upgrade a machine. I personally always try to keep my machines up to date but stuff does break from time to time. Like last week an ar…
Arch is a rolling release, upgrades are expected to break the system at some point. Windows updates aren't meant to. Most Windows updates are security or bug fixes only. The exception being the twice yearly feature updates. These have been an issue mostly because Microsoft had been using a random subset of Home users as beta testers for new updates. However, they are being less aggressive with this now.
Oh, that might explain my experience a bit. I've never had any issues with automatic Windows Updates managing 50+ with a mix of common software. Every one of them was always Pro or Enterprise though.
Ran Arch for a couple years for dev with a nightly cronjob of (iirc) "pacman -Syuw --no-confirm". That broke regularly but I knew it was a bad idea.
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I guess it's finally time to switch to Arch. This is an absolute deal breaker for me as well, as I use an ubuntu system for live visual performances, and I need to ensure that no unexpected auto-updates take place.
I'd recommend NixOS instead. Trying different desktops is easy as changing the config and doing a `sudo nixos-rebuild test`. Arch with its rolling release model is prone to breakage. Every upgrade gets you closer to having to reinstall everything from scratch. On contrast, NixOS is transactional and if something breaks you can switch to a previous version easily. (I actually went from Arch to NixOS, after using Arch…
OMG. Is this real? This is the exact reason I use Linux instead of Windows 10 or macOS. I am not a grandma who can't stay up to date on tech news. At the least there should be a toggle for power users. But no, you can only defer it. Am I the only one who doesn't like it when your already slow internet slows down even further? It feels like hell when you are working.
I am not upgrading to this. I have been using Arch Linux as my personal OS. Maybe I should look into Debian for my VMs.
And just read this thread[1]. Is this how they treat their users? Even Reddit is better then this.
1. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/is-ubuntu-software-going-to-b...
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I guess it's finally time to switch to Arch. This is an absolute deal breaker for me as well, as I use an ubuntu system for live visual performances, and I need to ensure that no unexpected auto-updates take place.
if you like Ubuntu and stability go debian. edit: the downvotes are fascinating. if you do LIVE performances and even remotely care about stability Arch is the last distro you should use. its a great distro but its bleeding edge by design. part of the fun of arch. contrarian views should be expressed with words if possible because id like to know what universe some of you are from..
> Snap applications auto-update and that’s fine if Ubuntu wants to keep systems secure. But it can’t even be turned off manually. OMG. Is this real? This is the exact reason I use Linux instead of Windows 10 or macOS. I am not a grandma who can't stay up to date on tech news. At the least there should be a toggle for power users. But no, you can only defer it. Am I the only one who doesn't like it when your already s…
Because if so, I'm sticking with 18.04.
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What if your goal is to bring Linux to the masses?
That boat sailed long ago. Windows has a pretty decent linux subsystem now. Even devs that were hardcore linux enthusiasts moved to windows. The benefit of linux is that it doesn't force stuff on you that you can't disable compared to windows. If you take that away, there are very little reasons for any normal user to move.
Is this a personal opinion or pure speculation?
So I run Kubuntu on my work laptop (X1 Carbon) and just upgraded to 20.04 last weekend. I had a vague idea there were different competing standards for "linux apps that work across distribution" but didn't know people had such a problem with snap. It just seemed like a useful tool for installing proprietary stuff that wouldn't normally be packaged by the distribution. I just checked and the snaps I have that aren't f…