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Judge Orders FCC To Hand Over IP Addresses Linked To Net Neutrality Comments

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Re: Judge Orders FCC To Hand Over IP Addresses Linked To Net Neutrality Comments

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This is definitely a touchy subject. As the article notes, this will remove the privacy from all people who commented on net neutrality, but it will also allow 2 NYTimes reporters to try to figure out why there were fake comments that led to the loss of neutrality for the people.

The separate question that still needs to be figured out, is who is going to be penalized for lying to the american people and taking away their freedoms [1]?

[1] https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/06/fcc-admits-it-was-never-ac...

Re: Judge Orders FCC To Hand Over IP Addresses Linked To Net Neutrality Comments

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post #2

This is definitely a touchy subject. As the article notes, this will remove the privacy from all people who commented on net neutrality, but it will also allow 2 NYTimes reporters to try to figure out why there were fake comments that led to the loss of neutrality for the people. The separate question that still needs to be figured out, is who is going to be penalized for lying to the american people and taking away…

The privacy aspect to this is definitely touchy:

> The FCC argued in court that making the millions of IP addresses contained in the logs publicly accessible would constitute an “unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.” And while [Judge Schofield] didn’t entirely disagree, she said the agency had failed to adequately spell out how anyone would be harmed by the disclosure.

> Regardless, Schofield said she also decided to weigh any hypothetical harm against the potential value of the information to the public. “In this case, the public interest in disclosure is great because the importance of the comment process to agency rulemaking is great,” she said, adding: “If genuine public comment is drowned out by a fraudulent facsimile, then the notice-and-comment process has failed.”

The judge also wrote that:

> ...despite the privacy concerns raised by the agency, releasing the logs may help clarify whether fraudulent activity interfered with the comment period, as well as whether the agency’s decision-making process is “vulnerable to corruption.”

Re: Judge Orders FCC To Hand Over IP Addresses Linked To Net Neutrality Comments

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Friendly reminder that there were massive bot compaigns on both sides of the issue. https://archive.fo/sp9Q7 this WSJ article found thousands of people that said they never posted the comments attributed to them.

>One 369-word comment supporting the Obama-era net-neutrality rules was posted on the FCC website more than 300,000 times. One of those was attributed to Gloria Burney, 87, a retired speech therapist in Los Angeles. She isn’t in favor of repealing those rules, she said, “but I never wrote that.” A comment from “Elzor The Blarghmaster” at 9632 Elm Road, Maywood, Ill., was among the 818,000 identical FCC comments backing the Trump policy. No such address could be found, said Jimmie Thompson, a U.S. Postal Service carrier in Maywood.

If you've got the impression that the bot compaigns were only from one side, you've just been misled by biased media like OP, which links to prior coverage of one company and doesn't bother to tell you about the broader picture.

Re: Judge Orders FCC To Hand Over IP Addresses Linked To Net Neutrality Comments

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post #6

Friendly reminder that there were massive bot compaigns on both sides of the issue. https://archive.fo/sp9Q7 this WSJ article found thousands of people that said they never posted the comments attributed to them. >One 369-word comment supporting the Obama-era net-neutrality rules was posted on the FCC website more than 300,000 times. One of those was attributed to Gloria Burney, 87, a retired speech therapist in Los…

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Re: Judge Orders FCC To Hand Over IP Addresses Linked To Net Neutrality Comments

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post #6

Friendly reminder that there were massive bot compaigns on both sides of the issue. https://archive.fo/sp9Q7 this WSJ article found thousands of people that said they never posted the comments attributed to them. >One 369-word comment supporting the Obama-era net-neutrality rules was posted on the FCC website more than 300,000 times. One of those was attributed to Gloria Burney, 87, a retired speech therapist in Los…

>He said the FCC received more than 7.5 million comments consisting of the same short-form letter supporting the current rules from about 45,000 unique email addresses, “all generated by a single fake e-mail generator website.” He said the FCC received more than 400,000 comments supporting the old rules “from the same address in Russia.”

Re: Judge Orders FCC To Hand Over IP Addresses Linked To Net Neutrality Comments

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post #6

Friendly reminder that there were massive bot compaigns on both sides of the issue. https://archive.fo/sp9Q7 this WSJ article found thousands of people that said they never posted the comments attributed to them. >One 369-word comment supporting the Obama-era net-neutrality rules was posted on the FCC website more than 300,000 times. One of those was attributed to Gloria Burney, 87, a retired speech therapist in Los…

And of course, if the tinfoil hat mentality is appealing, why not one actor spamming comments for _both_ sides? If said actor prefers one position they can just have a an order-of-magnitude difference in what they submitted; either way, said hypothetical party can be satisfied with eroding public trust in the process.
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