The great thing about webOS is that it's all HTML5 and CSS based, even the apps. For their mobile devices they choose to run a Linux kernel on the hardware but in principle it doesn't matter what the kernel is, as long as they have some way to show the apps.
WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
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Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#22This is a stupid idea, imho. If you want Windows as the OS, get a PC with Windows. If you want WebOs, get a PC with WebOs. But getting one with both, is just an annoying thing and most users won't really care.
I'm not buying a powerful machine with GBs of RAM and a dual-core processor, to just run that WebOs thing. It works well with a tablet, but a PC is a computer and not a tablet.
It'll be a good idea, though, to install WebOs on Free DOS machines.
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#23Ok, I know I need another coffee, so I apologise in advance for being the Grinch here, but... This is pure CEO puffery. When will these guys get it? When will they start looking up to Steve Jobs instead of treating him like a guy who just happened to get lucky eight times (Apple II, Macintosh, Pixar, Macintosh again, iPod, iTMS, iPhone, App Store, iPad)? Steve does not talk about what will ship on every Macintosh nex…
> Steve does not talk about what will ship on every Macintosh next year. Nah, he just talks about where he thinks the entire industry is heading and post-what era we are entering at the moment. Come on.
You're right about that, +1.
Personally, I can live with CEOs of all stripes talking about or even writing books at a very high or abstract level about "The Road Ahead." It's puffery, but it doesn't masquerade as management. It's just a guy (like me) making predictions about the future.
My vituperation is reserved for those CEOs who pretend that they're making product announcements or strategic direction announcements when they're vaporous or non-actionable. Maybe WebOS will be on every PC next year. Maybe not, and if we try to get Leo to eat his Claim Chowder, he'll say that "new information has come to light that caused HP to make new decisions."
Puffing about the company's specific products (see also: Playbook) is really bad. But you are absolutely right that they're both puffery. Different kinds of puffery, IMO, but still puffery.
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair point. But that's the way it's supposed to be. I guess my comment might seem humorously ignorant given the current Android situation, but it'd be tough to argue that it's not directly in Google's interest to get all that fixed up. On the other hand, it's not in Microsoft's interest to make software updates easy or viruses to go away. They're side problems that other companies deal with. HP's webOS should be more…
>On the other hand, it's not in Microsoft's interest to make software updates easy or viruses to go away. Huh, why not? How easier updates should get? If set to automatic, they're almost done Chrome style (except for the reboots GRR). And what about MSE? >HP's webOS should be more like Android than Windows With Windows, it gets updated instantly whichever OEM built your PC. With Android. it can take upto a year after…
> Huh, why not?
Business. Look at IE6. Microsoft can't force system-wide updates for all their customers, so nearly 0 customers get dramatic software improvements. Of course, everyone gets security updates.
> With Windows, it gets updated instantly whichever OEM built your PC. With Android. it can take upto a year after getting released, or never come out at all.
This isn't really relevant to the point I'm trying to make. I understand that right now, OEMs aren't updating Android frequently. I meant more user software updates; my Android apps seem to get updates every week that add features, fix bugs, etc. This process is streamlined and automatic. This is not true with traditional desktop operating systems (aside from most Linux distros).
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#25It will be so great if HP gets its groove back. It's really sad to see one of the great American companies flounder for so long. Ever since Carly merged it with Compaq they've been basically stagnant, IMHO, I think WebOS might really set them up for a big power play against Apple over the next few years.
The only PC I've ever hated was a HP. Overpriced for poor parts, slow as hell for its advertised purposes and using their provided software, and when parts broke I had to pay for special HP parts because they used custom sizing and screws.
Interestingly, my current favourite machine is an HP. But it's a business microserver, not a consumer desktop.
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#26It will be so great if HP gets its groove back. It's really sad to see one of the great American companies flounder for so long. Ever since Carly merged it with Compaq they've been basically stagnant, IMHO, I think WebOS might really set them up for a big power play against Apple over the next few years.
The only PC I've ever hated was a HP. Overpriced for poor parts, slow as hell for its advertised purposes and using their provided software, and when parts broke I had to pay for special HP parts because they used custom sizing and screws.
I've had good experiences with high-end hp laptops (HP Envy 13, 15). Beautiful and reliable without the Apple markup.
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#27It will be so great if HP gets its groove back. It's really sad to see one of the great American companies flounder for so long. Ever since Carly merged it with Compaq they've been basically stagnant, IMHO, I think WebOS might really set them up for a big power play against Apple over the next few years.
The only PC I've ever hated was a HP. Overpriced for poor parts, slow as hell for its advertised purposes and using their provided software, and when parts broke I had to pay for special HP parts because they used custom sizing and screws.
They also come loaded with bloatware, and the cases are super-cramped and leave no room for upgrades.
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Steve does not talk about what will ship on every Macintosh next year. Nah, he just talks about where he thinks the entire industry is heading and post-what era we are entering at the moment. Come on.
You're right about that, +1. Personally, I can live with CEOs of all stripes talking about or even writing books at a very high or abstract level about "The Road Ahead." It's puffery, but it doesn't masquerade as management. It's just a guy (like me) making predictions about the future. My vituperation is reserved for those CEOs who pretend that they're making product announcements or strategic direction announcement…
I think Steve's puffery is more of an explanation; it says something about why they're doing what they're doing, from their perspective.
Compare and contrast with the other kind of puffery, seen in this article. Steve's puffery can actually be valuable to interested parties, as it reveals the thought behind the actions, whereas Leo's puffery is just vacuous promises that may or may not be upheld.
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#29Ok, I know I need another coffee, so I apologise in advance for being the Grinch here, but... This is pure CEO puffery. When will these guys get it? When will they start looking up to Steve Jobs instead of treating him like a guy who just happened to get lucky eight times (Apple II, Macintosh, Pixar, Macintosh again, iPod, iTMS, iPhone, App Store, iPad)? Steve does not talk about what will ship on every Macintosh nex…
> Steve does not talk about what will ship on every Macintosh next year. Nah, he just talks about where he thinks the entire industry is heading and post-what era we are entering at the moment. Come on.
Yeah, he does that on the day he is shipping the device that represents the direction in which the entire industry is heading, the device that is the harbinger of the post-what era in question.
Re: WebOS will be on 'every HP PC' shipping next year, says CEO
#30Ok, I know I need another coffee, so I apologise in advance for being the Grinch here, but... This is pure CEO puffery. When will these guys get it? When will they start looking up to Steve Jobs instead of treating him like a guy who just happened to get lucky eight times (Apple II, Macintosh, Pixar, Macintosh again, iPod, iTMS, iPhone, App Store, iPad)? Steve does not talk about what will ship on every Macintosh nex…
"HP will stop making announcements for stuff it doesn't have. When HP makes announcements, it will be getting ready to ship." - Leo Apotheker, Jan 27 2011