Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by yangliwei » Sat, May 02, 2020, 12:25 AM UTC

Operating Systems Without Systemd
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Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by k__ » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:01 AM UTC

I think, that sums up what's wrong with the Linux world right now.

NixOS and GuixSD being the next generation of distributions and people are calling it "neat project with some unique features, but it is more fun as an intellectual curiosity than as something practical" while arguing if a distribution should use Systemd or not...

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by bhawks » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:08 AM UTC

Android - anyone? Android is linux, it's init is simple and the user experience obviously successful. There is a ton here for other distros to learn and improve on.

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by andoriyu » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:09 AM UTC

A few linux linux distos, GNU Hurd experiment, rust experiment, BeOS inspired, but none of the main stream BSD OSes? Not including the most popular linux distribution that doesn't have systemd - Android. Not including macOS, but i guess it's not OSS, so it doesn't count. Doesn't include Alpine linux.

That list is hella weird and should be named "Experimental OS that I'm curious about, but don't want to run myself. Also, none of them has systemd"

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by edoceo » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:10 AM UTC

Sad Gentoo didn't get more mention. Been using that w/OpenRC since before systemd existed and it's still my solid daily driver.

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by threwawasy1228 » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:12 AM UTC

k__ wrote: post #2

I think, that sums up what's wrong with the Linux world right now. NixOS and GuixSD being the next generation of distributions and people are calling it "neat project with some unique features, but it is more fun as an intellectual curiosity than as something practical" while arguing if a distribution should use Systemd or not...

I think that NixOS could definitely become a foundational next-gen distribution if they fix the Channel system. One fix I'm particularly fond of is flakes.

[0] https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/49

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by jmclnx » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:16 AM UTC

Well they forgot to list Slackware. It does not use systemd either.

edit: just read it again, it is a list of OS he likes, so it was not an omission :)

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by justinsaccount » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:17 AM UTC

k__ wrote: post #2

I think, that sums up what's wrong with the Linux world right now. NixOS and GuixSD being the next generation of distributions and people are calling it "neat project with some unique features, but it is more fun as an intellectual curiosity than as something practical" while arguing if a distribution should use Systemd or not...

The linux world is busy getting shit done. Ignore the children arguing over init systems.

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by catblast » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:21 AM UTC

bhawks wrote: post #3

Android - anyone? Android is linux, it's init is simple and the user experience obviously successful. There is a ton here for other distros to learn and improve on.

Windows and Mac OS are not on the list either. Haiku is, so this is not a Linux list. Pretty much arbitrary.

Re: Operating Systems Without Systemd

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Post by bzb3 » Sat, May 02, 2020, 1:21 AM UTC

k__ wrote: post #2

I think, that sums up what's wrong with the Linux world right now. NixOS and GuixSD being the next generation of distributions and people are calling it "neat project with some unique features, but it is more fun as an intellectual curiosity than as something practical" while arguing if a distribution should use Systemd or not...

>right now

No, this didn't start now.