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Xiaomi Recording ‘Private’ Web and Phone Use

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Post by vinay427 »

coribuci wrote: post #185
LeoPanthera wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many devices already do this.

> I wonder how many devices already do this. All Android phones. But they send the data to google and facebook so they must be good.

Source needed. The amount in the article is staggering compared to what Google claims to collect which is in line with the (admittedly not definitive) DNS query logs I monitor every now and then. Also, much of it (e.g. location) can be disabled and there are Android phones that are entirely free of Google and Facebook.

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Post by def_true_false »

Nextgrid wrote: post #128
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #105

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Would someone who is downvoting this be willing to explain why? Because I have the same impression (that many GDPR rules are simply being ignored because enforcement is lacking).

The typical response I get to such comments is that Google did get fined 50M once in France. The problem is that not only is it pocket money to them but Google continues to violate people's privacy (Google Analytics still tries to stalk me everywhere without asking for consent first). When it comes to Facebook I am not aware of any investigation or enforcement action being taken despite them being even worse than Goo…

It seems there has been more activity since then, see here https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

Sort by amount fined.

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Post by badsectoracula »

diminish wrote: post #172
paulryanrogers wrote: post #97

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I thought it went: DRM, spyware, then co-opted for malware by others.

Unfortunately I tend to think RM Stallman is right - smartphones are a prison with tracking enabled. We're all foolish to yield that much power to vendors. Most software on the smartphones aren't under our control, we aren't able to stop them, disable them, inspect them, or see the source code. I think we should undo everything done in the smartphone since 2008 and come up with a true open source smartphone.

The vast majority of people do not understand why this might be needed and even many of those who understand do not really believe or see it as a problem (or even see it as a benefit if they are profiting from it). Some even consider it as a good thing because it is presented as "security" and for many anything that could be secure in theory is enough to make them shut down their brains and try to see the negative sides.

To make what you mention work, that smartphone will not only need to be open source, but also be much better in both UX and features and cheaper than anything similar.

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Post by yorwba »

tiii wrote: post #138
yorwba wrote: post #45

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LineageOS supports a lot of different Xiaomi devices: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#xiaomi I have a tissot with LineageOS 16.0, not sure yet whether it will get 17 ported to it as well. The hardware is great for the price (bought it a year after launch, heavily discounted). I bought it specifically to run LineageOS on it, so I have no idea what the stock experience is like.

Official tissot support was dropped this month. No more security updates. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82234015&pos...

Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I'll have to flee to a different ROM, then.

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Post by throwaway_pdp09 »

cantrevealname wrote: post #43

Just wait till they: - start encrypting all the data they collect (with real encryption, not base64 encoding) - saving up the data for hours or days at time and sending it in bursts (so there is no immediate connection to a remote server) - sending the data to plausible U.S.-registered domains (rather than to Singapore and Russia) - monitoring at the kernel or firmware level so that it doesn't matter what browser or…

What is it with you saddos that you have to drag your apathy into everything and project your helplessness (or laziness more like) onto all others.

"We're so screwed, we can't do anything, can't prove/so disheartening"

You don't deserve to live in a free society if you're so willing to curl up like a prodded slug at such trivial adversities. Join the EFF, do something FFS, don't whine.

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

askafriend wrote: post #129

Much better to pay the Apple tax than to have to worry about this kind of stuff to save a couple bucks.

Yes, that extra margin is the reason Apple doesn't have to stoop to some of the practices of companies on much slimmer margins.
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