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Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by krapht » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:28 AM UTC

xenonite wrote: post #12

AmericanChopper wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if your 10,000 employees each need a hammer, getting them all the same one, from the same vendor, with the same support contract might just make sense. Edit to your edit: whatever particular sets of tools the business needs. Whether it’s laptops, thin clients, operating systems, IDEs, ticketing systems... > Even then, what if some app does not work on Windows 10? If your business had standardized on Windows 10, t…

And then there are some with very small or very big hands. Would you give them a different hammer, or would you criticize their subpar performance?

I would ask what's going on that couldn't be solved with cygwin or virtual box.

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by dbetteridge » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:28 AM UTC

Have to say that the company I work for has improved this leaps and bounds in the last 5 years but still has a ways to go.

Macs can be requested for devs but Windows is still the default for users. lots of services being migrated into azure/office365 means no longer needing the VPN for everything

but sharing large files is still primarily done via mapped network drives, which requires the VPN.

Security team unfortunately MITM SSL which means breaking random things like raw files on github (thanks Cisco).

Most of us have the freedom to spin up local vms/docker for dev environments and easy access to AWS and Azure for spinning up test/prod servers.

No real standouts, but the team is great and the work is interesting

EDIT: I should also note, this is an old school engineering firm, not a tech firm. Change is slow but it does happen

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:30 AM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #16

Adisuki wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I had stopped using Windows for health reasons a long time ago. How does Windows cause health issues?

Maybe they can’t use it because of health issues that cause them to need special accessibility tools that are unavailable on the platform.

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Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by downerending » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:30 AM UTC

Accepting a tech offer is surprisingly similar to bomb disposal, except that bomb guys have a better idea of what they're actually walking into.

When I was young, I considered this to be exciting. These days, it makes me never want to switch jobs again.

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by RangerScience » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:31 AM UTC

dbetteridge wrote: post #22

Have to say that the company I work for has improved this leaps and bounds in the last 5 years but still has a ways to go. Macs can be requested for devs but Windows is still the default for users. lots of services being migrated into azure/office365 means no longer needing the VPN for everything but sharing large files is still primarily done via mapped network drives, which requires the VPN. Security team unfortuna…

I recently switched from mac to windows (nice desktop gaming rig) - and although I ran into a day's worth of issues getting WSL2 setup so I could use Docker - it's been smooth sailing with VSCode otherwise.

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by Jugurtha » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:31 AM UTC

Maledictus wrote: post #17

Adisuki wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I had stopped using Windows for health reasons a long time ago. How does Windows cause health issues?

High blood pressure.

This. I had also become violent towards my machines, punching and kicking them several feet up.

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:31 AM UTC

kevsim wrote: post #19

erhk wrote: post #5

C is Google, what are the others?

I was guessing A was FB due to the one-time mega download (though I've not worked there so I'm not sure if there's a linux VM in that picture)

Considering that Rachel has worked there previously, it’s probably not a bad guess.

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by dbetteridge » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:35 AM UTC

RangerScience wrote: post #25

dbetteridge wrote: post #22

Have to say that the company I work for has improved this leaps and bounds in the last 5 years but still has a ways to go. Macs can be requested for devs but Windows is still the default for users. lots of services being migrated into azure/office365 means no longer needing the VPN for everything but sharing large files is still primarily done via mapped network drives, which requires the VPN. Security team unfortuna…

I recently switched from mac to windows (nice desktop gaming rig) - and although I ran into a day's worth of issues getting WSL2 setup so I could use Docker - it's been smooth sailing with VSCode otherwise.

Yeah, admittedly wsl has helped on that front.

My main pain points were related to filesystem access, primarily its speed for things like npm install and running test suites.

Though if you're just using a docker image through wsl2, does that alleviate those issues?

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by searchableguy » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:35 AM UTC

Jugurtha wrote: post #8

The moment after I signed the contract to join a startup, the CTO said "OK, then... Here's your laptop, install Windows and we'll talk later..". My heart sank and felt I took a bad turn in life. I really wanted to work there but I had stopped using Windows for health reasons a long time ago. I wondered if it were rude to resign the same day because there was no way I would use Windows. I thought it was more honest, b…

I feel like people didn't understand sarcasm or I have a broken sarcasm detector. I can't tell.

Re: If you're hiring, be forthcoming about the dev experience

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Post by Jugurtha » Fri, May 01, 2020, 7:36 AM UTC

Adisuki wrote: post #13

Jugurtha wrote: post #8

The moment after I signed the contract to join a startup, the CTO said "OK, then... Here's your laptop, install Windows and we'll talk later..". My heart sank and felt I took a bad turn in life. I really wanted to work there but I had stopped using Windows for health reasons a long time ago. I wondered if it were rude to resign the same day because there was no way I would use Windows. I thought it was more honest, b…

> I had stopped using Windows for health reasons a long time ago. How does Windows cause health issues?

>How does Windows cause health issues?

It is not that Windows caused health issues, but my reaction to Windows was not healthy. Bear in mind that before switching, I had only used DOS but mainly Windows for almost two decades. Let's say we grew apart over the years.