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Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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I use meet professionally on a daily basis as my company is a GApps for business customer and most people I talked to are pretty satisfied. Sound, connection and video quality is very good, far better than Slack in my opinion. We had meetings with more than 100 paticipants. Integration in Google Calendar is also a big plus.

One pretty minor thing that bothers me is that the webcam and mic mute toggles and the hang up button are blended in and out on moving the mouse cursor during a call. I'd prefer to at least have the option to let the toggles stay onscreen as I tend to use the mute mic toggle a lot during a meeting. Also there is a moment of awkwardness every time a call ends because many participants look for the end call button.

It's a great thing that I can use my Smartphone as a mic during a meeting. Would be great if this could be expanded to my phones' cam as a webcam replacement.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

#42
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Meet supports up to 100 participants. That would be pretty tough to do e2ee. Is there a service that can do that?

How come this is hard to do with 100 participants? Not a crypto or video encoding expert, but I'd have thought each participant would have a decryption key for their stream, and this key they would transfer to others by encrypting it separately with each other participant's public key and then broadcast that bundle to everyone. Thus everyone else can decrypt only their entry in that bundle using their private key, an…

Consider resolution. With non encrypted video, you receive one hd stream. With 100 people, you'd need 100x the bandwidth, and supporting things like highlighting speaking people would need to be done client side.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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I once attempted to create a Google account from a university (which has their own ASN), and Google still asked for a phone number.

Google still asked for a phone number Asks for , certainly. Requires was the claim. Google asks me a dozen times a day to enable Location Services. Yeah, right.

Twitter does not "require" a phone number, but they'll lock your account very quickly for "suspicious activity" if you don't provide one.

I imagine Google to be similar.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

#45

I use meet professionally on a daily basis as my company is a GApps for business customer and most people I talked to are pretty satisfied. Sound, connection and video quality is very good, far better than Slack in my opinion. We had meetings with more than 100 paticipants. Integration in Google Calendar is also a big plus. One pretty minor thing that bothers me is that the webcam and mic mute toggles and the hang up…

Ctrl+d toggles the mic

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

#46
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How come this is hard to do with 100 participants? Not a crypto or video encoding expert, but I'd have thought each participant would have a decryption key for their stream, and this key they would transfer to others by encrypting it separately with each other participant's public key and then broadcast that bundle to everyone. Thus everyone else can decrypt only their entry in that bundle using their private key, an…

Consider resolution. With non encrypted video, you receive one hd stream. With 100 people, you'd need 100x the bandwidth, and supporting things like highlighting speaking people would need to be done client side.

I honestly thought that was the case already (that highlighting is happening client side, and that my client receives each stream separately). So what you're saying is that currently a central server is performing the task of merging those 100 streams into a single stream for users. So it needs to do this separately for each user configuration of how they want to see the streams?

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google still asked for a phone number Asks for , certainly. Requires was the claim. Google asks me a dozen times a day to enable Location Services. Yeah, right.

Twitter does not "require" a phone number, but they'll lock your account very quickly for "suspicious activity" if you don't provide one. I imagine Google to be similar.

Yes, and after that they need additional account information for more security reasons, like your second e-mail.
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