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Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)

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Post by JoeAltmaier » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 11:00 PM UTC

cpr wrote: post #167

650REDHAIR wrote: post #146

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And by non-essential workers staying home it frees more hospital beds for those more at-risk and exposed. That’s literally the point of shelter in place.

With hospitals shutting down, and doctors and nurses being furloughed for lack of patients...

...because we've done enough to slow the spread. Any responsible look at the stats show that clearly. Here's a link in case the entire internet wasn't enough:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)

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Post by zaroth » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:00 AM UTC

bildung wrote: post #147

zaroth wrote: post #141

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I don’t see that. The paper he linked to in that tweet is a high level review of treatment options . Where exactly do you see him saying that total prevalence would be 0.1%?

You're right! Wrong link, and I can't find the correct one on twitter. But he also said it elsewhere, like in this letter to tesla employees: https://electrek.co/2020/03/17/elon-musk-tesla-coronavirus-p...

Thank you for that. Funny my comment still got downvoted. I’m pretty sure I made some enemies with my COVID opinions and someone has a bot downvoting all my posts at this point.

Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)

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Post by happytoexplain » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:17 AM UTC

Fjolsvith wrote: post #73

happytoexplain wrote: post #47

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There's an argument to be made that assembling right now in certain numbers is necessarily not peaceable, if it puts others in danger.

Exactly. If one draws the distinction that children aren't allowed in bars, alcohol stores or adult bookstores, why can't persons who are vulnerable not be allowed where people assembling might cause them vulnerable harm? This would allow people their freedom to assemble.

While I appreciate the attempt to find a compromise, this example is totally inappropriate for an infectious disease in a population.

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Post by tandr » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 2:13 AM UTC

DagAgren wrote: post #154

alkonaut wrote: post #37

He needs to stop tweeting drunk it's as simple as that.

I think it might be more helpful if he just stopped being a massive asshole.

Why not both?

Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)

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Post by Turing_Machine » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 2:31 AM UTC

me_me_me wrote: post #178

Turing_Machine wrote: post #163

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Can we please stop pretending that economic destruction doesn't kill people? Because it does. If the food supply chain gets disrupted, as many fear that it may, that could be a lot of people.

Can we stop pretending Covid19 doesn't kill people?

No one is pretending that.

Now, does anyone care to address my point, rather than brigading down something because you actually don't have a response?

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Post by Turing_Machine » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 2:32 AM UTC

Turing_Machine wrote: post #164

DagAgren wrote: post #153

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Is it really that much to ask them to do their part to keep hundreds of thousands of people from dying painfully. Is that really not something they are prepared to do.

Are you still getting paid? If so, maybe you could take your next several checks and send them to people who are out of work. You should be willing to do your part, right?

I guess the answer is no, then. I've noticed, though, that everyone who thinks other people should "do their part" is still getting paid.

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Post by me_me_me » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 9:37 AM UTC

Turing_Machine wrote: post #185

me_me_me wrote: post #178

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Can we stop pretending Covid19 doesn't kill people?

No one is pretending that. Now, does anyone care to address my point, rather than brigading down something because you actually don't have a response?

No one cares to address point that have been addressed already.

If we talk about the numbers then opening up a country runs a risk of even higher daily deaths and longterm economical damage due to lack of workforce after the disease passes.

Americans want to be South Koreans without taking South Korean measures. You simply cannot have a cake and eat it too.

Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)

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Post by Fjolsvith » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 9:55 PM UTC

happytoexplain wrote: post #183

Fjolsvith wrote: post #73

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Exactly. If one draws the distinction that children aren't allowed in bars, alcohol stores or adult bookstores, why can't persons who are vulnerable not be allowed where people assembling might cause them vulnerable harm? This would allow people their freedom to assemble.

While I appreciate the attempt to find a compromise, this example is totally inappropriate for an infectious disease in a population.

Well then, consider the bubble boy who was immunodeficient. All those vulnerable to the degree it is life threatening can get one of those and let everyone else get on with their lives.

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Post by jinushaun » Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 10:39 PM UTC

dr_dshiv wrote: post #25

jinushaun wrote: post #15

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The more Musk tweets, the further away he gets from the visionary with dreams of Mars and the closer he gets to Trump. I used to be a fan, but I’ve found it impossible to defend Musk in recent years.

I think the key is to allow enough intellectual diversity on the left so that someone like musk doesn't get pushed so easily into an outsider. Being antirepublican, antiTrump and antilockdown is a valid position.

This isn't about Left versus Right, or even Coronavirus. It's about Musk's transformation from Tony Stark to "Pedo Guy".

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Post by rabboRubble » Fri, May 01, 2020, 3:56 AM UTC

Turing_Machine wrote: post #163

me_me_me wrote: post #129

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To quote the classic: "Many of you will die, but I am ready to make that sacrifice."

Can we please stop pretending that economic destruction doesn't kill people? Because it does. If the food supply chain gets disrupted, as many fear that it may, that could be a lot of people.

>... food supply chain gets disrupted.

Food supply chain disruption is known thing because populations without herd immunity that congregate together, if one person in that herd becomes ill, the disease will rocket through the population. It's happening already. It's really easy for Trump to sign papers to force a company to produce food. Trump can't sign papers to make individuals healthy enough to work or make individuals unafraid to congregate for work purposes.