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Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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Re: Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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Sunlight exposure is also bad for you; taking it orally is the way to go for most people. As pointed out upthread, most supplements are hilariously low-dose. I take 20k IU, 3 times per week. (most supplements are like 1000IU per pill, but 3000IU pills can be found)

Sunlight is bad for you in high doses without sunscreen. Moderate exposure is healthy, and may decrease the risk of many other cancers and heart disease. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/260247#3 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/07/dose-sunshine-ex... https://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-some-sun-exposure-will-p... Another way to look at it is that we evolved with the sun over millions of years, and t…

Damaging high doses can be as little as a few minutes in the Australian summer so I think it's fair to keep that in mind.

On your evolution comment, most Australians don't have dark skin, but the ones who were here before Europeans do. I think that is a good indicator that the body is adjusting to something harmful. On the other hand, many dark skinned people in Britain aren't in a climate they evolved for either. We all have to be mindful that people move around the world faster than evolution now and may need to adjust our habits.

Re: Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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So for all of us biochemistry muggles, what should we be taking and how much? I just want to pip install vitamin-d and be on my way.

What's a muggle? Honestly, if you live in CA like most here just sun bathe for 15-20 mins daily on exposed skin, your body actually has a 'built-in' start-stop system that will actually stop producing vitamin D innately due to a feedback loop. You need to stop before your skin becomes irritated and begins to burn, obviously, to avoid damage. 17 mins for me is the sweet spot for ideal blood serum levels. > what should…

Muggle is a term from Harry Potter meaning non-wizard.

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> For reference, 5,000 IU is >800% the FDA daily recommended value. Unfortunately the daily recommended value was established erroneously and should be much higher. Many research papers mention this. For example: > The Institute of Medicine recommendation for adults younger than 70 years of age is 600 IU of vitamin D daily. We are told that this would achieve a level of 50 nmol/L in greater than 97.5% of individuals.…

The next paragraph is even more interesting: > A colleague of mine and I have introduced vitamin D at doses that have achieved greater than 100 nmol/L in most of our patients for the past number of years, and we now see very few patients in our clinics with the flu or influenzalike illness. In those patients who do have influenza, we have treated them with the vitamin D hammer, as coined by my colleague. This is a 1-…

It is.

Re: Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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Lots of people have been claiming that the currently-summer countries haven't gotten as hard hit. Their reasoning has been that the extra UV is killing the virus.

I wonder if they were correct, but for the wrong reasons. Vitamin D in humans primarily comes from a chemical reaction with sunlight in the skin. Maybe there's an indirect effect there that explains what they were seeing?

Re: Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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Interesting thing... Vitamin D is one of those things that, when vitamins come up on HN, you will often hear the refrain that "it's the one vitamin that large numbers of people are actually deficient in and ought to supplement." I've heard that many times over the years and I have taken a Vitamin D supplement on and off (more off than on) over the years. When this COVID-19 thing first hit, I had a physical scheduled…

Same thing happened to me. I was in the single digits for Vitamin D, and my doc had me taking 10000 a day (or week) I think. Within a month, I started to feel way more energy in the afternoon (I used to feel dead by 1pm). I also mysteriously kept getting sick with small colds that winter before supplementing, and those also went away.

USDA experiments have shown that exposing certain mushrooms to UV light converts cholesterols in the mushrooms to vitamin D. Since sunlight contains UV, an easy solution would be to leave some portabella mushrooms out in the noonday sun for a while. So far I can't find any articles that give a precise number for how long the mushrooms were exposed, though.

[1] http://www.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/80400525/Articles/AICR0...

[2] https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publication/?...

[3] https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/169377/n...

Re: Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For reference, 5,000 IU is >800% the FDA daily recommended value. Unfortunately the daily recommended value was established erroneously and should be much higher. Many research papers mention this. For example: > The Institute of Medicine recommendation for adults younger than 70 years of age is 600 IU of vitamin D daily. We are told that this would achieve a level of 50 nmol/L in greater than 97.5% of individuals.…

The next paragraph is even more interesting: > A colleague of mine and I have introduced vitamin D at doses that have achieved greater than 100 nmol/L in most of our patients for the past number of years, and we now see very few patients in our clinics with the flu or influenzalike illness. In those patients who do have influenza, we have treated them with the vitamin D hammer, as coined by my colleague. This is a 1-…

Because it costs less than a dollar duh..

Re: Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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Interesting thing... Vitamin D is one of those things that, when vitamins come up on HN, you will often hear the refrain that "it's the one vitamin that large numbers of people are actually deficient in and ought to supplement." I've heard that many times over the years and I have taken a Vitamin D supplement on and off (more off than on) over the years. When this COVID-19 thing first hit, I had a physical scheduled…

You'd have to get follow up to see if Vitamin D has gone up after taking it. I was Wrong on the internet (lots of food has vitamin D including Eggs and Mushrooms): Vitamin D supplements may not be absorbed as digestion isn't the normal process for obtaining it.

Yeah, when I got back for my next checkup, I definitely plan to ask my doctor to order the Vitamin D test again so we can see how it's changed over time.

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Interesting thing... Vitamin D is one of those things that, when vitamins come up on HN, you will often hear the refrain that "it's the one vitamin that large numbers of people are actually deficient in and ought to supplement." I've heard that many times over the years and I have taken a Vitamin D supplement on and off (more off than on) over the years. When this COVID-19 thing first hit, I had a physical scheduled…

How long did it take for you to notice a difference?

I'd say after a week or two I felt like I could notice a difference.

Re: Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe Covid-19

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There is an app I've been using to track my Vitamin D for a few years now: http://dminder.ontometrics.com (Not affiliated with the app, just happy with it.) It tells you the sun angle, peak hour of the day, and maximum time you should be in that day's sun based on your skin type, to avoid getting burnt while still getting enough D. Be careful though - you might get a little OCD about Vitamin D tracking with this app.…

This app seems amazing! Can't figure it out, does it send me a push notification of when to sunbath?
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