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De-Googling: My Progress

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

lowdose wrote: post #219
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is between you being Apple's user and you being Google's product.

I never read Google discriminates between paying customers before. That's such a wild accusation that it requires serious evidence. Edit: I can reply anymore but just supply a link of data handling discrimination between paying customers because that's what you imply by "there is not difference between GSuite customers and normal gmail". It's bullshit https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303

You're correct in that Google doesn't discriminate between paying and non-paying customers: It happily abuses the privacy of it's paying customers too.

Many of Google's uses of data are not specific to whether or not someone is using G Suite or consumer Gmail as far as I am aware.

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Post by entropicdrifter »

robjan wrote: post #148
b3n wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I opt for Signal now, hardly anyone uses it and the UX isn’t as nice, but it uses state of art in encryption. Out of curiosity, what don't you like about the UX? And doesn't it use the same "state of the art" encryption as WhatsApp?

The problem with WhatsApp is that the other participants in a given chat are likely to back up the conversation to Google Drive of iCloud which defeats the purpose of E2E encryption. And, of course, the metadata.

Also it's owned by Facebook, so you just know there's some backdoors built in.

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Post by crashbunny »

dao- wrote: post #97
crashbunny wrote: post #95

I've done a similar thing, qwant, protonmail, firefox (4 different profiles and scores of containers), privacy badger, ublock origin, decentral eyes, but I'm convinced it's not possible to stop tracking. My browser finger print is unique and it doesn't seem possible to change that. Also I have an android phone with google apps, facebook, twitter, scores of other apps tracking me. There's not much I can do about givin…

Have you checked what factors make your browser fingerprint unique?

yeah, I can't recall every factor but my locale was the biggest one and setting it to US is annoying for spelling reasons. colour vs color, etc.

resolution as mentioned is another big factor but that was also annoy having the default resolution. Maybe I would have gotten used to it, but I tried for many weeks with the firefox anti fingerprint setting but eventually gave up, it was too inconvenient.

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Post by [deleted] »

taneq wrote: post #205
andrepd wrote: post #133

Moving from Google cloud to Apple cloud, from Google messenger to Facebook messenger... What's the point honestly?

I'd much rather three different companies each have a slice of my data than one company have all of my data and be able to cross-reference it.

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Post by crashbunny »

niyaven wrote: post #137
dao- wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you checked what factors make your browser fingerprint unique?

If you're using firefox, you're already in a bucket of only 4.42% [0]. But even without that, just take your screen resolution, browser + os version, font list, your time zone, and you're almost already unique. [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/

having my timezone set to utc was probably the most annoying thing about the firefox anti fingerprint setting. I never got quick and efficient at doing quick math to know what the local time was in my head.

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Post by findjashua »

yachtman wrote: post #181

Firefox is now objectively better than Chrome in every way. I would recommend switching moral reasons aside. Chrome's memory management is abysmal. I now get the same shudder when I see someone with chrome on their machine that I used to get when I saw someone running Internet Explorer (which may even be better than chrome now too).

biggest reason I switched to Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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Post by jwr »

yachtman wrote: post #181

Firefox is now objectively better than Chrome in every way. I would recommend switching moral reasons aside. Chrome's memory management is abysmal. I now get the same shudder when I see someone with chrome on their machine that I used to get when I saw someone running Internet Explorer (which may even be better than chrome now too).

Unfortunately, this is not true. I wish it were.

Firefox's JavaScript engine is still slower and large JavaScript apps become sluggish more quickly.

Also, I still haven't found a way to let users download files from JavaScript (e.g. through a button click that invokes a function) in Firefox, that wouldn't open another window and in the process close their websocket connection.

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #74

>Then force Thunderbird to fully download all of my mail and then push it all back up. I didn't know it's possible to upload mail (without actually sending it) with IMAP. Do hosted providers allow that? Looks like it's additional cost with no benefit if you don't data-mine email.

Yep, IMAP is a pretty stupid organizer. Some servers also support a feature: when you upload a message into outbox folder, the server picks it up and sends to the specified recipients.
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