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De-Googling: My Progress

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Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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> I’ve already pulled down my 2-300GB Google Photos archive How? I've tried several times and can never complete the download. Wired ethernet, not wifi.

Takeout doesn't work in practice for bigger collections (archive creation routinely fails, timeouts while downloading, 50GB max size results in many splits)

I've used this 3rd party tool and it worked OK: https://github.com/gilesknap/gphotos-sync/

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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I have Fastmail and other private email services but I've been unable to really move over because of all the integrations that Gmail has. Automatic email scanning for trip details, calendar integrations, searches from the web also surfacing details from emails, google voice, tons of other apps and extensions. It would be a nice if there was a way to get all this functionality beyond Gmail.

I use a private Searx instance which includes searches over my own document archive in its results. To achieve this I made a new Searx 'engine' [1] - which is essentially a proxy between the Searx instance and another search engine - which connects Searx to a Recoll instance. Since Recoll can also search email it would be fairly trivial to include results from there as well although I have never used this. The 'engine' would need to be extended in such as way as to communicate the (logged-in) username to Recoll so it returns results from the correct email account (or no email account for anonymous users) but that is a fairly trivial change.

[1] https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/pull/1257

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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The trouble with de-Google is you have to replace a highly integrated suite of apps with separate bits which lack integration.

Also, if you have hundreds of accounts where you used gmail to register and hundreds or thousands of contacts which might send you mail, it's hard to switch.

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I'm actually in the slow process of this as well. Moving to DDG is the easiest starting point; in the beginning it's tempting to type g! with every search until you start trusting the results. Next I changed from my Pixel 2 to a SailfishX on a Sony phone. I'm planning on moving to Owncloud for contacts/storage/docs next. It's surprising how I've paid for Google to deeply invade my life.

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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The trouble with de-Google is you have to replace a highly integrated suite of apps with separate bits which lack integration. Also, if you have hundreds of accounts where you used gmail to register and hundreds or thousands of contacts which might send you mail, it's hard to switch.

I didn't kill off my gmail accounts, but they all forward to my ProtonMail accounts for those contacts that haven't been updated to my ProtonMail accounts yet. Those get handled piecemeal, which is pretty easy.

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I really tried giving DDG a chance but I always found myself having to go back to Google to find the right information. This would especially pertain to technical matters. The 'average-joe-browsing' (e.g. amazon, movies, songs etc.) worked fine, but when it came down to research papers or solving software problems, I was too often left disappointed. A couple of weeks back I switched to Qwant[1]. Privacy focused, tech…

Qwant was based on bing a few years ago, but I don't know if it's still the case

Having taken a look at the privacy policy, it looks like it does still use bing as well as its own results.

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDG results are okay until you need to look up something non computer science related, like results for your local country.

Actually that’s better too, I like how it’s possible to switch countries easily to get local results or choose global results. Some non technical searches are more difficult though.

DDG returns mostly Norwegian results when I set the region to Denmark. I get that our languages are very closely related and thus hard to tell apart, but it does get annoying.

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One thing to add to the list. Signal rather than Whatsapp. It's the best. Protonmail isn't bad too.

Signal does not play nice with other protocols and centralizes everything. Hardly an improvement. Better go for real alternatives that will likely survive way longer like Riot/Matrix.

Or 'plain and simple' XMPP with OMEMO [1] encryption. This is easy to host yourself using Prosody or Ejabberd or another XMPP server, Conversations (or one of its forks) on Android, Monal or Siskin or iOS, something like converse.js in a browser, etc.

[1] https://omemo.top/

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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I actually think the results on DuckDuckGo are better than on google for many topics especially technical: - there’s less ads (you can turn them off completely, but I’ve only seen one ad on the front page at most which is ok for me) - not as SEOed (still not great though) - the box on the side is often more useful, e.g. Wikipedia instead of shopping ads - on mobile Safari I use the bangs [0] which have a sort of Omni…

As much as I would like to agree, as a user who has DDG as the default search engine, this is not my experience... DDG consistently gives me useless results when I search for less popular languages results (searching Dart, or the search-friendly dartlang, gives me crap every time, while Google finds stuff easily... sure, Dart is by Google, that may be a factor, but if I remember correctly, results for Groovy and very…

I agree. I find myself using the !g bang any time I’m looking for software related queries.

Re: De-Googling: My Progress

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I really tried giving DDG a chance but I always found myself having to go back to Google to find the right information. This would especially pertain to technical matters. The 'average-joe-browsing' (e.g. amazon, movies, songs etc.) worked fine, but when it came down to research papers or solving software problems, I was too often left disappointed. A couple of weeks back I switched to Qwant[1]. Privacy focused, tech…

Qwant was based on bing a few years ago, but I don't know if it's still the case

It's a mix of Bing and their own crawler depending on the queries.
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