I hope in time people who think the government can be used for Good will see how it's merely a tool for the rich.
Although maybe you need a government to take 30% of everyone's income to fund a military or someone else will.
The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
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Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#12Because you live in a lawless oligarchy that has been rubber stamping the rich's laws for 2 straight centuries. See the endless extension of copyright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...
Interesting choice since the extension of copyright ended in 2019 and works have started entering the public domain again.
Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
The former seems so much more likely to me. Probably because my German teacher had us watch ["The Lives of Others"]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others ) and at this point it would be absolutely insane to imagine that the obsession with power that exists in the government would fail to find a way to read data that's literally stored on someone else's computer where you could never tell if it's been rea…
Except that we have proof, at least as far as the US Government is concerned. Snowden provided us with proof in abundance that they will "find a way". How anyone can consider this a gray area in 2020 is beyond me.
This comment thread really is nonsense. So Facebook and the government are secretly working together in a conspiracy to falsify court records while secretly they cooporate the whole time and the case was never actually tried? What planet are you on?
And the proof is Snowden, because... ???
Or are you all just agreeing you have your own conspiracy theories, and aren't directly commenting on what each other are saying?
Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#14Because you live in a lawless oligarchy that has been rubber stamping the rich's laws for 2 straight centuries. See the endless extension of copyright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...
Is there a government in existence now or at any time in the past that didn't solely exist to rubberstamp the rich's laws? The peasants republic of Dithmarschen?
Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#15My conspiracy theory hat comes out every time a large US company seems to stand up against the government for the privacy of their users and wins. I always assume the company secretly gave the government what they asked for, and the government agreed to play along for marketing purposes. I suppose that the boring truth is that Facebook just used it's vast financial resources to protect itself in a way that lavabit ne…
Why would that be so?
Why wouldn't they just skip the annoying charade and the anti government precedent, and just give over the info secretly in the first place, least work for everyone?
And don't you think at some point one of the retired engineers or execs would leak the truth?
Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#16Because you live in a lawless oligarchy that has been rubber stamping the rich's laws for 2 straight centuries. See the endless extension of copyright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...
Is there a government in existence now or at any time in the past that didn't solely exist to rubberstamp the rich's laws? The peasants republic of Dithmarschen?
I mean, yeah. There have been a lot of revolutions in world history. They did not exist _solely_ to rubber stamp the laws of the rich.
Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#17Because you live in a lawless oligarchy that has been rubber stamping the rich's laws for 2 straight centuries. See the endless extension of copyright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...
Interesting choice since the extension of copyright ended in 2019 and works have started entering the public domain again.
I'll believe that if mickey mouse becomes public domain. Currently slated for 2024, apparently.
Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#18Because you live in a lawless oligarchy that has been rubber stamping the rich's laws for 2 straight centuries. See the endless extension of copyright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...
Interesting choice since the extension of copyright ended in 2019 and works have started entering the public domain again.
Except for Disney IP.
Such an irony since Disney made all its initial money by animating public domain works.
Fuck that mouse
Re: The ACLU wants to know why Facebook beat a 2018 wiretap case
#19Because you live in a lawless oligarchy that has been rubber stamping the rich's laws for 2 straight centuries. See the endless extension of copyright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...
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