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Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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I wasn't, no. Is their reputation as fearsome as Oracle? I have personal experience with both; only Oracle was regrettable (so far).

The last few years Google Cloud sales reps have been much more aggressive. They walk in wearing Gucci loafers, talking about their MBAs, and telling us we need to spend 50% more this year. With the new GCP head from Oracle, I wouldn't expect it to get better, but glad to hear others are getting better treatment.

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Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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That was specifically about the Amazon marketplace, not AWS.

AWS isn't that far off from following in the same path. Look at what they did with Elastic Search.

That has nothing to do with the subject being discussed. Unless you are saying their offering harvests customer data?

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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RIP Zoom's devops team.

Having experience with AWS, Azure, and OCI, I wouldn't voluntarily touch OCI with a 29½-foot pole. One of my company's software vendors uses OCI for the cloud-hosted version of their product, and we've had all sorts of random issues that make me really really really want to install the "on-prem" version on some Windows instances in our own AWS account. Maybe we're just an outlier and Zoom will have better experiences, but something tells me that given Zoom's scale the issues will only be amplified.

Given that it's an Oracle product, I can't imagine it being cheap in the long-run, either, so I seriously don't know what the value proposition is there. Sure, maybe Zoom got a good introductory price given their scale, but... eek.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Why? Is it because of cost? Perhaps nepotism? I don' see a reason why Amazon or Azure would be passed over in favour of Oracle. Why wasn't GCP a contender either? Something seems fishy... someone from Zoom care to chime in? Maybe they are afraid that Amazon or Microsoft with their tradition of copying competition would pose a threat? Even then, Microsoft is already competing using Microsoft Teams and if Amazon wanted…

> I don' see a reason why Amazon or Azure would be passed over in favour of Oracle. Why wasn't GCP a contender either? Because Amazon, Microsoft, and Google are competitors to Zoom. Why would you host on your competitor ?!

Apple buys chips from Samsung.

Or at least they used to - I guess lately they are strictly reliant on TSMC?

https://wccftech.com/samsung-aiming-high-apple-a13-next-year...

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/01/23/apple-boosts-chip-...

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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I worked in a startup that was eventually acquired by cisco. We had the same dilemma back then. AWS and GCP were great, but also fairly expensive until you get locked in. Oracles bare metal cloud sweetened the deal soo much, that it was a no brainer to go with them. We were very heavy on using all open source tech stuff, but didnt rely on any cloud service like S3 etc. So the transition was no brainer. If your tech s…

>AWS and GCP were great, but also fairly expensive once you get locked in. Oracles bare metal cloud sweetened the deal soo much,

Until you get locked in.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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I’ve been impressed by what I’ve heard about Walmart. They apparently won’t even use a SaaS tool if it’s hosted on Amazon.

I worked at walmart labs for 3 years and that is correct. We had one, on premise, service that phoned home for license information to an AWS address and our request to whitelist the ip address had to go up to the CTO.

That’s changed hasn’t it? I remember going to a Walmart labs talk 5 years ago where they were all in on aws.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Wow. That’s news to me. Walmart is so calculated.

It's just smart business. Your random SaaS company is often a big shitshow. I've had more than one vendor Sales Engineer show me live customer data in response to performance or other questions. Startups and smaller SaaS companies in particular often demonstrate amazing levels of cluelessness.

We had an e-com SaaS company give us "sample product data" to help one our customers who was onboarding to their platform and was trying to figure out how to set up their product records and taxonomies, and the data turned out to be poorly anonymized real production data from one of our client's competitors who was also on the same SaaS platform.
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