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Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #80

The idea is nice, great even, but... No but seriously. Who, in 2020, grabs their phone first thing before hitting a drink, or bathroom, or wash your face or whatever you do when you wake up? I (37M) find it weird. In 2010, sure, it was all new and I was younger maybe. Nowadays I just don't even have to refrain myself, it could be 10, 20 minutes before I look at any screen. It would usually be my laptop actually. Am I…

Same. I keep my phone face down and on do not disturb, on my nightstand, and only pick it up once I'm ready to start the work day.

I find even seeing the app icons for notifications on my lock screen can lead me down a nonstop work path where you end up in you PJ's at 11h30 with zero caffeine in you and a feeling of a day already passed.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #87

I wake up and the first thing I do is check my phone and I don't think that's unhealthy. Quite the contrary I believe. It is a slow start to the day and I feel connected to friends and family. I am living abroad, a few hours behind my native country where most of my friends live. So when I wake up, there is already a lot of activity in the WhatsApp groups I am part of. I don't use WhatsApp professionally, so it's jus…

Please understand that what I'm about to say isn't to be taken personally. I don't know you, and I'm taking your word for it that you have a healthy relationship with your phone.

Something functional alcoholics will often say is "I don't have a problem, I just like a beer with dinner, nothing wrong with that", and a usual response is "okay, then how about you take a week off? If it's just something you like, then that should be no problem".

Of course, that's where the excuses start!

This May challenge is conceptually similar. Nothing in your morning routine would be disrupted by more than 120 seconds, if you took the time to look at the sky and appreciate it before starting in with the phone.

Again, I'm mentioning this on behalf of other people who might be a bit in denial about how they start their day.

My personal routine starts with plugging the laptop into the monitor and brewing coffee, and browsing Twitter and HN while my brain wakes up. I'm not big on my phone in general, especially not lately.

But I'm intending to add looking at the sky for the month of May (although not joining a Facebook group, yuck!).

It sounds nice.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #76

One of the best small changes I made was sleeping in a different room to my phone. We now have a charging station in the study where all our phones and other devices charge. When I wake up I often go through breakfast etc. before going to get my phone. If you're stil sleeping near your phone, stop it. Alarm clocks are very cheap. You don't need any of the fancy features of your phone's alarm - you'll adapt.

I like the idea in theory but I always use my phone to actually fall asleep by listening to some monotonous audio. Before doing this I had extremely hard time falling asleep.

One option if you really want to sleep in a separate room from your phone is to get a dedicated audio player for your bedroom. Depending on the features you need (Bluetooth, streaming support from Spotify, etc.) you can get one for around $70 to $300. You could also get a Raspberry Pi and automate playing your monotonous audio at your bedtime each night. That would be cheap and a neat quarantine project.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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I always would like to participate in these but end up taking advantage of the rules, without fail. My guess is I'd get up, walk over to the window, pull down the blinds to ensure light enters my pupils for five seconds, then go back to bed and promptly read HN for half an hour. It would still count. I wouldn't even be able to see it since I'd probably not even bother to put on my eyewear just to see five seconds of sky.

I'm trying to work out my intended goals if I'm going to attempt such a thing. I do believe cellphone usage in bed is a negative. But if that's what I'm trying to combat, I'm not sure just "looking at the sky first thing in the morning" is going to help me accomplish reducing phone usage in bed. Because once I've looked at the sky for the morning, I'm free to do whatever, and there's only one other thing I'm going to do first thing in the morning.

The same happened when I tried to follow a course on building self esteem. It consists of writing three positive experiences and three things you're grateful for each morning. The author noted: if you're skeptical at staying on track, try it for 30 days. You'd be surprised at yourself.

All that happened was that I did this for exactly the 30 days, stopped cold, and haven't found the motivation to start again. Rereading what I wrote during that time on the occasion, I fail to see what I accomplished.

Same with a 30-day morning exercise routine. My thoughts: I'm no longer indebted to follow this person's advice. I've tried it. I've forced myself through it. I don't feel any different, except perpetually exhausted throughout the rest of the day. Now what?

I still want to do these things, because there's clearly some benefit to be had if someone went out of their way to host an entire webpage for this concept, and stating that it "sounds easy" as opposed to "it is easy". Exercise leads to better health. Writing some words supposedly leads to better mental health.

Yet it always feels compulsory, like someone on the Internet has the power to control my behavior against my will, and if I "fail" the "challenge" I'll think less of myself for it. The only reason I'm doing this is because someone I don't know suggested it, and the whole point is once you start, you have to follow through. So essentially, I feel like no matter what happens I'm roping myself into something I will not stick through to the end. Then I end up dreading every moment of it, eventually forgetting why I even bothered to try it in the first place amongst how forced and tiresome it is, and inevitably go back to my usual habits.

Ultimately it comes down to consciously not trying and staying the course in equilibrium, or trying, failing, and managing to convince myself I didn't have it in me, or that I see no benefit. For something as simple as scribbling some notes in a journal.

I noticed that my desire to exercise disappeared entirely the moment I bought myself an exercise bike and put it two feet away from my desk at home.

I also tried sleeping for a week with my phone in a separate room. Cue not being able to fall asleep outright until 3-4 AM for the entire week. At least 12 AM with my phone on night mode was better for my health before.

I don't get it. Maybe when next month comes around I'll just have to try harder, as they say. For $DIETY_NAME's sake, it's just looking at the sky.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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The first thing I do in the morning is look outside and try to guess the clock time from the shadows and the position of the sun to test my sense of time and to check how fucked my sleeping schedule is. So I guess I've already done this? (If you don't count the days when I've set an alarm because my phone doesn't have the "shake to shut up" feature and it wouldn't make sense to guess the time if you've just woken up to an alarm.)

Except for that, I generally don't use my phone a lot. I don't trust most mobile apps because I have no good way of isolating and limiting an app's capabilities on my phone (compared to the web where things like uMatrix and related tech are commonplace) and the few apps I do have are more of the information-pull rather than the information-push type (although that's unintentional).

Maybe a bit off-topic but I think mobile operating systems are generally more a burden than a help for me. Android's design decisions make a lot of sense for a lot of people's needs but for me it's just too limiting compared to PC operating systems so I simply don't do a lot on my phone.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #87

I wake up and the first thing I do is check my phone and I don't think that's unhealthy. Quite the contrary I believe. It is a slow start to the day and I feel connected to friends and family. I am living abroad, a few hours behind my native country where most of my friends live. So when I wake up, there is already a lot of activity in the WhatsApp groups I am part of. I don't use WhatsApp professionally, so it's jus…

Please understand that what I'm about to say isn't to be taken personally. I don't know you, and I'm taking your word for it that you have a healthy relationship with your phone. Something functional alcoholics will often say is "I don't have a problem, I just like a beer with dinner, nothing wrong with that", and a usual response is "okay, then how about you take a week off? If it's just something you like, then tha…

Makes sense. I've been considering letting to check the phone in the living room (currently my office too) just because sometimes there are videos/audios that I want to check, but my wife is still sleeping.

The watching the sky thing is more of a marketing device that I might skip though.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first thing I do when I wake up is send a good morning to people and check the stuff they wanted me to see as I was sleeping. It refuse to believe this is "unhealthy". It's communication.

Sure, communication by itself is not unhealthy. The question is should it be done right after waking up. The brain has no time to gather thoughts, plan the day, etc. It's anything but a graceful boot up. By reaching for the phone first thing in the morning you're telling your brain "you're nothing but a social media content processor." Not only that, but with news being mostly negative (a major reason of why people r…

Why shouldn't it be done after waking up? I haven't got anything better to do.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, communication by itself is not unhealthy. The question is should it be done right after waking up. The brain has no time to gather thoughts, plan the day, etc. It's anything but a graceful boot up. By reaching for the phone first thing in the morning you're telling your brain "you're nothing but a social media content processor." Not only that, but with news being mostly negative (a major reason of why people r…

Why shouldn't it be done after waking up? I haven't got anything better to do.

There's value in not doing anything. Meditation is a form of it.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #131
post #80

The idea is nice, great even, but... No but seriously. Who, in 2020, grabs their phone first thing before hitting a drink, or bathroom, or wash your face or whatever you do when you wake up? I (37M) find it weird. In 2010, sure, it was all new and I was younger maybe. Nowadays I just don't even have to refrain myself, it could be 10, 20 minutes before I look at any screen. It would usually be my laptop actually. Am I…

Same. I keep my phone face down and on do not disturb, on my nightstand, and only pick it up once I'm ready to start the work day. I find even seeing the app icons for notifications on my lock screen can lead me down a nonstop work path where you end up in you PJ's at 11h30 with zero caffeine in you and a feeling of a day already passed.

> even seeing the app icons for notifications on my lock screen can lead me down a nonstop work path

I totally know the feeling! I think it's really biological, low-level:

- dopamine! It's like a shot, the brain gets triggered.

- familiarity: "feels like home", habits take us to our comfort zone.

> you end up in you PJ's at 11h30 with zero caffeine in you and a feeling of a day already passed.

Haha, yeah... I've been there so often in my teens / twenties.

I think it was self-love + discipline that let me exit that loop. Treating myself like a (inner) child and their parent all-in-one person: forces one to think about well-being first, it gives a feeling it's the "right thing to do" to let yourself chill and avoid that kind of time vortex.

Re: May Sky Challenge

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post #126
post #80

The idea is nice, great even, but... No but seriously. Who, in 2020, grabs their phone first thing before hitting a drink, or bathroom, or wash your face or whatever you do when you wake up? I (37M) find it weird. In 2010, sure, it was all new and I was younger maybe. Nowadays I just don't even have to refrain myself, it could be 10, 20 minutes before I look at any screen. It would usually be my laptop actually. Am I…

21-year-old here, I do that pretty often. Most days when I wake up I feel super groggy and/or have very little motivation to get out of bed, so mindlessly scrolling Reddit/Facebook or reading the news gives me a slow start to gather some energy to get out of bed. However, recently I _have_ been wondering whether being on my phone all the time contributes to those symptoms.

That's a very good question. I used to be you. As I said above, my 'secret' was to dissociate 'me' (the body, with an inner child inside) from 'my thinking brain', the overarching parent/boss up there who makes decisions.

So parent takes care of the child and is able to say "nope, don't do that". Developing this approach is what made me an adult I think (I was in my 30s already, it didn't come naturally to me).

A great trick was audiobooks. You just listen and that wakes the brain up, but a book is really, really so much better than random posts. 30 minutes as you wake up, then get up, have breakfast etc. is sure mind opener.

It becomes a habit, maybe a need even, but it's a good need. Books and exercises is the winning combination for success and happiness (seriously, just these two things put you in the top 5%, or so I hear).

Places like librivox have tons of free content. A well thought-out podcast is good too I think (long-form content). It's the idea of a passive but mind-opening activity.

Then when I'm working during the day I put the phone away silent for ~30 minutes, then take a break and chill for 5-10 minutes, then back at it, rinse and repeat. That's what got me off the dopamine hook I think.

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