US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies

Post by gruez » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:16 PM UTC

munk-a wrote: post #122

ordinaryradical wrote: post #41

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I used to be wowed by this kind of hypocrisy, but lately I've concluded that these things are happening so frequently because the voters have proved to them sufficiently that they will take no heed provided it "hurts the other team." Everything on the news looks ironic now because the political class has realized there's almost no limit to what they can get away with.

There was a comment on: > Absolutely. America is internally fractured enough now to make any resistance movement useless. Most people are content to attack each other while the political/managerial class makes further extractions and the world moves beyond American hegemony. > It's sad, really. This country pulled in generally the same direction for a long time. We don't have that strength anymore. Which was deleted…

Post by asdff » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:17 PM UTC

alasdair_ wrote: post #61

ordinaryradical wrote: post #41

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I used to be wowed by this kind of hypocrisy, but lately I've concluded that these things are happening so frequently because the voters have proved to them sufficiently that they will take no heed provided it "hurts the other team." Everything on the news looks ironic now because the political class has realized there's almost no limit to what they can get away with.

>Everything on the news looks ironic I was born and grew up in Scotland. I remember the first time I watched Fox News after moving to the states - for almost fifteen minutes I genuinely thought I was watching some (honestly pretty funny) satire.

Post by asdff » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:18 PM UTC

mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #156

madhadron wrote: post #142

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Washington and Oregon only have remote voting. It works extremely well, is less open to voter suppression and tampering, and lets you sit down and research what you're voting for in comfort. A ballot is mailed to you, you fill it out, seal it up, and mail it back or put it in one of the many ballot drop boxes. Electronic voting? Absolutely not. But it's hard to have cyberwarfare campaigns against paper trails.

Paper by mail voting should be our standard in the US. There is absolutely no need for real-time efficiency when it comes to potentially changing political office seats. There usually is a month or two before the successor takes office so we don't need to know that night, it could be a week later. Sometimes technology introduces more potential problems.

Post by asdff » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:20 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #90

eanzenberg wrote: post #70

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The right supports mail-in ballots with voter-id, and voter-id in general. The left doesn't support that, why?

> The left doesn't support that, why? Because it's a transparent attempt to reduce the ability of some groups of people to vote. The right pushes for voter ID while simultaneously doing everything possible to reduce the availability of ID. Put the Federal Election Commission in charge of voter ID, make the cards free and make it the mission of the FEC to track down and ensure every qualified citizen has one. Then I s…

Post by giantg2 » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:20 PM UTC

Frondo wrote: post #155

karatestomp wrote: post #120

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Has it been an actual problem in states that allow mail-in voting without also having voter ID laws? If it's a real issue, it ought to already be causing problems.

It has not. Oregon has had vote by mail exclusively for over twenty years and, in the 2016, with over two million votes cast, 54 problematic votes (according to an audit done by the then-republican secretary of state.)