Pelosi: It's time to consider universal basic income pushed by Andrew Yang

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Post by SubiculumCode » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

Pelosi: It's time to consider universal basic income pushed by Andrew Yang
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Post by bsanr2 » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

Now is the time to watch closely. When Pelosi got on board healthcare reform, we lost the public option. The chances that her support is a mask for a campaign to water down any potential legislation are high.

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Post by nobodyandproud » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:19 PM UTC

bsanr2 wrote: post #2

Now is the time to watch closely. When Pelosi got on board healthcare reform, we lost the public option. The chances that her support is a mask for a campaign to water down any potential legislation are high.

Can you explain?

My recollection is that there was too much squabbling within the Democrat party to achieve it, with moderates wavering.

And with the Senate putting in a watered down public option, it killed any chance for the House to submit tgeir own.

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Post by Donald » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:22 PM UTC

bsanr2 wrote: post #2

Now is the time to watch closely. When Pelosi got on board healthcare reform, we lost the public option. The chances that her support is a mask for a campaign to water down any potential legislation are high.

The senate dropped the public option under threat of a Joe Lieberman (independent former democrat who caucused with the democrats) filibuster: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/10/why-lie...

I don’t recall if the public option was ever included in the house bill. Do you?

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Post by jjtheblunt » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:22 PM UTC

How was $1000/month for anyone over age 18 supposed to be funded?

Without exact details answering such, do voters believe this is more than seeking voter-attention. Are there actual plans of implementation whose economics/numbers work?

I see people discuss such but never see answers.

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Post by cheez » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:23 PM UTC

jjtheblunt wrote: post #5

How was $1000/month for anyone over age 18 supposed to be funded? Without exact details answering such, do voters believe this is more than seeking voter-attention. Are there actual plans of implementation whose economics/numbers work? I see people discuss such but never see answers.

Yang's was well considered, I'm sure it's still on his website.

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Post by mkr-hn » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:24 PM UTC

nobodyandproud wrote: post #3

bsanr2 wrote: post #2

Now is the time to watch closely. When Pelosi got on board healthcare reform, we lost the public option. The chances that her support is a mask for a campaign to water down any potential legislation are high.

Can you explain? My recollection is that there was too much squabbling within the Democrat party to achieve it, with moderates wavering. And with the Senate putting in a watered down public option, it killed any chance for the House to submit tgeir own.

Not the person you replied to, but there are different narratives for it:

"Democrats didn't want it because their insurance company sponsors didn't want it."

"Democrats didn't fight for it because they needed votes from a few people who wouldn't support it."

I'm partial to the view that they could have motivated those few senators to vote for a public option if they tried. Democrats wave their hands too much on the viability of progressive policy for my taste. Whether the belief in that unviability is genuine or a smokescreen is uncertain.

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Post by therealdrag0 » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:24 PM UTC

jjtheblunt wrote: post #5

How was $1000/month for anyone over age 18 supposed to be funded? Without exact details answering such, do voters believe this is more than seeking voter-attention. Are there actual plans of implementation whose economics/numbers work? I see people discuss such but never see answers.

What are the options? - Taxes - Debt - Money printing

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Post by Ididntdothis » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:25 PM UTC

nobodyandproud wrote: post #3

bsanr2 wrote: post #2

Now is the time to watch closely. When Pelosi got on board healthcare reform, we lost the public option. The chances that her support is a mask for a campaign to water down any potential legislation are high.

Can you explain? My recollection is that there was too much squabbling within the Democrat party to achieve it, with moderates wavering. And with the Senate putting in a watered down public option, it killed any chance for the House to submit tgeir own.

I remember Lieberman and Baucus derailing the effort. And Obama didn’t have the courage to pound the table back then.

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Post by generalpass » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:26 PM UTC

jjtheblunt wrote: post #5

How was $1000/month for anyone over age 18 supposed to be funded? Without exact details answering such, do voters believe this is more than seeking voter-attention. Are there actual plans of implementation whose economics/numbers work? I see people discuss such but never see answers.

We'll have to pass the bill to find out!