But what about the potential for fraud!
US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
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Re: US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
You would have to decide on a process for senators to formally register their votes remotely, and that process would have to be one that could not be hacked even by a state actor because the stakes are incredibly high. That is a tall order even for a group of technically competent people, and the U.S. Senate is not generally known for its technical competence.
There are only 100 senators, and lots of people track their votes. A senator logging a surprising vote would be asked about it and able to correct the record. Hacking a senate vote wouldn't be much use in the long run.
That is far from clear. Imagine that the famous vote on repealing Obamacare had been done remotely and someone had hacked John McCain's famous thumbs-down vote to be a vote in favor of repeal. Imagine further that before the matter could be clarified with McCain, he had become incapacitated and died. That is a plausible scenario. It only takes one hack at the margins to change the course of history.
Re: US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is true but only half the story. The federal government is able to incentivize vote-by-mail through federal funds. This has been the center of much debate. Speaker Pelosi says she will push for these funds in any next round of stimulus.
So Pelosi is willing to politicize the epidemic, cool.
Peepeepoopoo democrats do so much politics peepeepoopoo
shut the fuck up.
Re: US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
#84I'm against this resolution, because it opens up the possibility of senate voter fraud. What's to stop dead senators from voting? Or senators from voting twice? This may even make it possible for former felons in the senate to vote!
Not sure how you equate 100 known peoples' votes to potentially 330m peoples' votes.
He was being farcical to make a point.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly enough, a significant majority of Republican Voters (~65%) actually do support mail in ballots. The opposition largely stems from the RNC and senior party leadership. In any case I am glad that the US senate is taking public health seriously, and I hope that they will take similar precautions in protecting their constituents by passing the Klobuchar-Wyden bill to allow mail in voting: https://www.wyden.…
The right supports mail-in ballots with voter-id, and voter-id in general. The left doesn't support that, why?
The left doesn't support that because it disproportionately disenfranchises minority voters. Which is the same reason why the right DOES support it.
Re: US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly enough, a significant majority of Republican Voters (~65%) actually do support mail in ballots. The opposition largely stems from the RNC and senior party leadership. In any case I am glad that the US senate is taking public health seriously, and I hope that they will take similar precautions in protecting their constituents by passing the Klobuchar-Wyden bill to allow mail in voting: https://www.wyden.…
The right supports mail-in ballots with voter-id, and voter-id in general. The left doesn't support that, why?
Voter ID laws make it easy for certain classes of people to get one and hard for others. It's a tool for voter suppression. Also, we have incredibly low rates of voter fraud thanks to measures that already exist.
Re: US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly enough, a significant majority of Republican Voters (~65%) actually do support mail in ballots. The opposition largely stems from the RNC and senior party leadership. In any case I am glad that the US senate is taking public health seriously, and I hope that they will take similar precautions in protecting their constituents by passing the Klobuchar-Wyden bill to allow mail in voting: https://www.wyden.…
The right supports mail-in ballots with voter-id, and voter-id in general. The left doesn't support that, why?
Because IDs aren't necessarily easy to get and cost money, disenfranchising the poor and those without any other reason to get one.
I don't know, does it takes a lot of effort to look up the talking points of the people you disagree with? It implies your viewpoint was achieved without ever having come in contact with an alternative, which is concerning.
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#88When was the last time a candidate represented your views? Does voting matter any more?
Voting will only really get power to the people when we implement a system that works. The best option out there is STAR Voting https://www.starvoting.us/ and online polls at https://star.vote/ As long as we have choose-one voting, it will devolve to two dominant parties that do not need to care about most voters' interests.
I've never heard of STAR, but I'm not immediately convinced it's the best option. It would be interesting to see actual data comparing it to other voting methods (e.g. [1], not the table on the STAR website).
I'm partial to ranked choice voting for most local elections and House elections, because you can do some interesting things with proportional representation.
[1] http://zesty.ca/voting/sim/
[2] https://www.fairvote.org/fair_rep_in_congress#what_does_the_...
Re: US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is true but only half the story. The federal government is able to incentivize vote-by-mail through federal funds. This has been the center of much debate. Speaker Pelosi says she will push for these funds in any next round of stimulus.
So Pelosi is willing to politicize the epidemic, cool.
I would maybe not go there on a day where the administration yanked a bat-to-human coronavirus grant because it doesn't "fit with current NIH priorities."
Re: US Senators Introduce Resolution to Allow Remote Voting During Emergencies
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly enough, a significant majority of Republican Voters (~65%) actually do support mail in ballots. The opposition largely stems from the RNC and senior party leadership. In any case I am glad that the US senate is taking public health seriously, and I hope that they will take similar precautions in protecting their constituents by passing the Klobuchar-Wyden bill to allow mail in voting: https://www.wyden.…
The right supports mail-in ballots with voter-id, and voter-id in general. The left doesn't support that, why?
> The left doesn't support that, why?
Because it's a transparent attempt to reduce the ability of some groups of people to vote. The right pushes for voter ID while simultaneously doing everything possible to reduce the availability of ID.
Put the Federal Election Commission in charge of voter ID, make the cards free and make it the mission of the FEC to track down and ensure every qualified citizen has one. Then I support voter ID.