A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall • Hacker News Board

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by CuriousCosmic » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:14 AM UTC

downerending wrote: post #5

I feel bad for the colleges. But anyone in their right mind that's going to college to learn things will take a gap year. Those going to college just for the paper are well advised to keep going. The next couple of years will be easy mode, for sure. You get an A, and you get an A--everyone gets an A!

If you are relying on scholarships to afford university, this is not an option. If you break full time status you essentially forfeit all of your scholarships and it is very unlikely you will get them back.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by clumsysmurf » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:15 AM UTC

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #9

klodolph wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive me, but I find it a bit hard to be sympathetic in a broad sense to the organizations that make their money from rental income.

As someone who has made an effort to build a connection with my landlords, being a landlord is not in any way an easy job. Good landlords spend an immense amount of time on maintaining their properties and making sure that their renters have all their needs tended to. This is doubly so in a rural university town where the seasonally renting(2/3rds of the year) population is anywhere from 10 to 30 times the size of th…

> Good landlords spend an immense amount of time on maintaining their properties and making sure that their renters have all their needs tended to.

Good landlords are hard to find. There is so much information asymmetry when choosing a rental property. They can get large troves of data on you, but the reverse is not so easy if possible at all.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by nradov » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:26 AM UTC

malandrew wrote: post #10

derrick_jensen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe virtual learning will be widely used long-term. I might be biased, coming from a mostly engineering school, but there is a lot of vital lab equipment needed for the curriculum, not to mention that social networking and connections are essential to most careers going forward, and I don't see that transferring over in the same way

I’d be happy if this was the beginning of the end for humanities departments that have become overtly political. More resources should be shifted to more utilitarian degrees like engineering and hard sciences.

Engineers are worthless if they can't communicate effectively and don't understand the context of their work.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by baggy_trough » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:31 AM UTC

klodolph wrote: post #6

cracker_jacks wrote: post #2

Many college towns and rental properties relying on student income will be devastated.

Forgive me, but I find it a bit hard to be sympathetic in a broad sense to the organizations that make their money from rental income.

Baffling comment. Providing rental property is a legitimate business.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by klodolph » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:32 AM UTC

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #9

klodolph wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive me, but I find it a bit hard to be sympathetic in a broad sense to the organizations that make their money from rental income.

As someone who has made an effort to build a connection with my landlords, being a landlord is not in any way an easy job. Good landlords spend an immense amount of time on maintaining their properties and making sure that their renters have all their needs tended to. This is doubly so in a rural university town where the seasonally renting(2/3rds of the year) population is anywhere from 10 to 30 times the size of th…

Being a good landlord is not an easy job, but individual landlords (good or bad) are in the minority. The majority of properties are owned by PMCs, and the difference is larger when you look at MDUs or college towns.

By their nature, PMCs are after profit, and improvements are an expense to minimize. The nature of college towns mean that there is a constant supply of “fresh meat” in the market, often moving to or from other cities, further disincentivizing improvement or good behavior on the part of the PMC. Why bother to replace moldy carpet, if the tenants don’t stick around to take you to court for it?

Having rented from PMCs in the past, having worked in college housing, the idea that you would feel sympathy towards a PMC in a college town is pathological.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by baggy_trough » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:32 AM UTC

Hard to imagine packing up and moving across the country into a dorm, taking the risk of being kicked out a few weeks later.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by klodolph » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:33 AM UTC

baggy_trough wrote: post #14

klodolph wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive me, but I find it a bit hard to be sympathetic in a broad sense to the organizations that make their money from rental income.

Baffling comment. Providing rental property is a legitimate business.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by baggy_trough » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:34 AM UTC

nradov wrote: post #13

malandrew wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d be happy if this was the beginning of the end for humanities departments that have become overtly political. More resources should be shifted to more utilitarian degrees like engineering and hard sciences.

Engineers are worthless if they can't communicate effectively and don't understand the context of their work.

Humanities departments emit some of the most cryptic texts around. They should be worrying about that before trying to help engineers.

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by nprz » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:37 AM UTC

CFR for those aged 60 or greater is at 6.4%[0]. And of course an even larger percentage will end up hospitalized. How many professors are in that high risk demographic? Class is just supposed to go on while professors inevitably fall ill, become hospitalized and die?

[0]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...

Re: A List of Colleges’ Plans for Reopening in the Fall

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Post by tsumnia » Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:43 AM UTC

The List, because wall:

Beloit College

Boston University

Brown University

California Baptist University

California State University at Fullerton

Chapman University

Centre College

Christopher Newport University

Claremont Colleges

Clemson University

Cornell University

Drury University

East Tennessee State University

Emory University

George Mason University

George Washington University

Harvard University

Haverford College

Iowa Board of Regents Iowa, and the University of Northern Iowa

Macalester College

Marquette University

Merrimack College

Montana State University

North Carolina State University

North Dakota State University

Oakland University

Ohio State University

Purdue University

San Jose State University

Shenandoah University

Southern New Hampshire University

Stanford University

Trine University

University of Arizona

University of Arkansas at Fayetteville

University of Colorado at Boulder

University of Connecticut

University of Central Florida

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

University of Maine system

University of Mary Washington

University of Maryland system

University of Michigan

University of Missouri

University of Nebraska

University of Oklahoma

University of Oregon

University of Portland

University of Pittsburgh

University of South Carolina

University of Tennessee at Knoxville

University of Texas at Austin

University of Virginia

Utah System of Higher Education

Virginia Commonwealth University

Virginia Tech University

Wake Forest University

Washington State University

Wayne State University

West Virginia University

William Jewell College

Williams College

Yale University