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Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by jarekkruk »

amelius wrote: post #102
OrangeMango wrote: post #40

At a rummage sale a few years ago, I bought a book published by Disney in the 1960s or 1970s which had instructions on how to make Mickey Mouse puppets. It also said to "have fun" making them. Selling things for a profit is a lot of fun. As far as I'm concerned, I now have a perpetual, transferable license to make and sell Mickey Mouse puppets. I even asked a lawyer.

This reminds me of a book called "numerical recipes in C", full of algorithms that were very useful except you couldn't really use them because the authors protected their use with a very restrictive license.

On the other hand I haven't seen red black tree implementation that isn't based on Cormen (in most cases quoted).

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by _kst_ »

MattGrommes wrote: post #96
mholt wrote: post #44

Update from Disney: > The above legal language applies ONLY to replies to this tweet using #MayThe4th and mentioning @DisneyPlus . These replies may appear in something special on May the 4th! https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254849654585323525 ... as if that's really any better.

I took this as more like when you write a letter to a magazine and they say to write "Ok to print" so they can use it later. If you send them a message for use in MayThe4th celebrations, they can then use it in promotions.

Except that tweets aren't sent to Disney. They're sent to all Twitter users.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by dnautics »

ballenf wrote: post #86
mholt wrote: post #44

Update from Disney: > The above legal language applies ONLY to replies to this tweet using #MayThe4th and mentioning @DisneyPlus . These replies may appear in something special on May the 4th! https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254849654585323525 ... as if that's really any better.

I love the precedent that Disney is setting here. Will be a little harder for them to argue against my Tweet next month: "Walt Disney World was awesome! Thanks to all the hard workers who made the day special. By replying to this Tweet, Disney Corp. hereby agrees to abide by the copyright laws in place as of the release dates of its motion pictures, instead of the longer dates obtained through perversion of the legal…

why not go nuclear?

"Walt Disney World was awesome! Thanks to all the hard workers who made that day special.

By replying or retweeting this Tweet, Walt Disney Corp. hereby agrees in perpetuity to sell to the owner of this twitter account for $1, per motion picture, an unlimited, license for any purpose."

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by jiveturkey »

OrangeMango wrote: post #40

At a rummage sale a few years ago, I bought a book published by Disney in the 1960s or 1970s which had instructions on how to make Mickey Mouse puppets. It also said to "have fun" making them. Selling things for a profit is a lot of fun. As far as I'm concerned, I now have a perpetual, transferable license to make and sell Mickey Mouse puppets. I even asked a lawyer.

you do. what you don't have is a license to attach the words "Mickey Mouse" to your product.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by arkitaip »

qppo wrote: post #94
mangoman wrote: post #17

I think the value of hiring more experienced folks to run social media (i.e. not an intern, someone with any amount of experience) is that they can actually point out how ridiculous this will come off, and argue against this type of tweet. It really doesn't take that much corporate self awareness to see how bad it looks to try to force TOS on free speech on a public forum.

The Walt Disney Corporation doesn't have social media run by interns, they have one of the more active and experienced social media apparatuses out there. They have to, they're one of the largest media companies in the world. Ironically they militantly protect their brand, and have conflicting mandates and reasons for doing so (it's not just to keep the image, it's to keep others from deriving value from their brand)…

I disagree. If you run your social media this ineptly that you become a laughing stock of the platform you are spending millions on to be "cool" and "native", then you have failed. Period.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by colejohnson66 »

saagarjha wrote: post #75
shadowgovt wrote: post #18

I've seen maker-spaces where a billboard was set up that automatically displayed a rolling marquee of tweets that had been sent with #TheMakerSpacesHashtag in the shop. ... can't help but wonder if the space put themselves at risk for being sued over a copyright violation if someone didn't like their tweet on that billboard.

How is that a copyright violation, though? The tweets are publicly available on the internet, and presumably the maker space is just showing the Twitter website like anyone could themselves…

Being on the internet does not make something public domain or free to use. A screenshot of a Twitter feed includes many copyrighted things: Twitter’s web layout, the tweets themselves, etc.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by dfxm12 »

mangoman wrote: post #17

I think the value of hiring more experienced folks to run social media (i.e. not an intern, someone with any amount of experience) is that they can actually point out how ridiculous this will come off, and argue against this type of tweet. It really doesn't take that much corporate self awareness to see how bad it looks to try to force TOS on free speech on a public forum.

What are you more scared of, especially when your brand is more or less bulletproof? Some kind of lawsuit, or briefly looking ridiculous on Twitter?

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by martincmartin »

amelius wrote: post #102
OrangeMango wrote: post #40

At a rummage sale a few years ago, I bought a book published by Disney in the 1960s or 1970s which had instructions on how to make Mickey Mouse puppets. It also said to "have fun" making them. Selling things for a profit is a lot of fun. As far as I'm concerned, I now have a perpetual, transferable license to make and sell Mickey Mouse puppets. I even asked a lawyer.

This reminds me of a book called "numerical recipes in C", full of algorithms that were very useful except you couldn't really use them because the authors protected their use with a very restrictive license.

You could use the algorithms, just not their implementation of the algorithms. If you rewrote it from scratch, following their text (not their source code), you were fully allowed to use it.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by [deleted] »

MattGrommes wrote: post #96
mholt wrote: post #44

Update from Disney: > The above legal language applies ONLY to replies to this tweet using #MayThe4th and mentioning @DisneyPlus . These replies may appear in something special on May the 4th! https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254849654585323525 ... as if that's really any better.

I took this as more like when you write a letter to a magazine and they say to write "Ok to print" so they can use it later. If you send them a message for use in MayThe4th celebrations, they can then use it in promotions.

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Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by benibela »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #54
Consultant32452 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an anecdote about this. I worked at Disney for some time and a coworker was an avid 2nd amendment person. They left their firearm in their car as is legal for any employer with a very short list of exceptions. I think munitions development is one of the exceptions, and Disney qualifies because of their massive fireworks shows. I'm very foggy on these details as it's been many years since. Anyways, he was chatt…

This is why you only live in states with single-party consent recording privileges and document everything these sleezeballs say. Then hand it over to the judge.

But then your employer pulls out the recording of all the awkward things you said at work.
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