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I am shocked an appalled to see that there is an anti-vaxx undertone present on HN. A simple google search reveals that this information is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/ Please, @csense - this is only a digital certificate, one which is clearly designed not to actively track someone, but to provide much needed medical info in 3rd world countries who don't have the infrastructure to store…
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I am shocked an appalled to see that there is an anti-vaxx undertone present on HN. A simple google search reveals that this information is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/ Please, @csense - this is only a digital certificate, one which is clearly designed not to actively track someone, but to provide much needed medical info in 3rd world countries who don't have the infrastructure to store…
...Considering:
"'Fact checking' website Snopes on verge of collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn't told its readers THOSE facts)"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brin...
"Allegations from Mikkelson's divorce paint the website CEO as a money-hungry playboy, who "nickel and dimed" his ex-wife — and former Snopes.com owner — as well as spent nearly a hundred-thousand dollars on prostitutes and trips to exotic places. The suit claims the professional escort and former adult film star, Elyssa Young, whose escort name is Eryn O'Bryn, is Mikkelson's new wife. "
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/jul/28/ticker-fact-...
Snopes is NOT an authority on information validity.
Also, FYI: Appealing to Authority is a logical fallacy. Do you always listen to "authority"? How about when told to jump off a bridge or commit acts of crime? I'll take Stanford Prison Experiment for 600, Alex!
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Open your mind. Search for yourself, instead of relying on the discredited Snopes & The Zombie-Sheeple-Hivemind.
Lookup ID2020.
Bill Gates - Reddit AMA
I quote him: "Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fksnbf/im_bill...
"An Invisible Quantum Dot 'Tattoo' Could Be Used to ID Vaccinated Kids
"The invisible "tattoo" accompanying the vaccine is a pattern made up of minuscule quantum dots - tiny semiconducting crystals that reflect light - that glows under infrared light. The pattern - and vaccine - gets delivered into the skin using hi-tech dissolvable microneedles made of a mixture of polymers and sugar."
"So far, the system is mostly a proof of concept. But the researchers have already tried it out on rats and found that the patterns were still detectable nine months after injection."
"In human cadaver skin models, the patterns outlasted five years of simulated Sun exposure."
"It's possible someday that this 'invisible' approach could create new possibilities for data storage, biosensing, and vaccine applications that could improve how medical care is provided, particularly in the developing world," MIT professor and senior author Robert Langer said in the statement. "
https://www.sciencealert.com/an-invisible-quantum-dot-tattoo...
"The program to leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity was unveiled by ID2020 in partnership with the Bangladesh Government’s Access to Information (a2i) Program, the Directorate General of Health Services, and Gavi, according to the announcement.
Digital identity is a computerized record of who a person is, stored in a registry. It is used, in this case, to keep track of who has received vaccination."
https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-l...
Re: Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronavirus pandemic
#13Gates is loving the attention he's getting from this. I hate the guy personally.
I cannot imagine seeing someone be so unilaterally altruistic and still hating them. Why do you feel they are deserving of your hate?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am shocked an appalled to see that there is an anti-vaxx undertone present on HN. A simple google search reveals that this information is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/ Please, @csense - this is only a digital certificate, one which is clearly designed not to actively track someone, but to provide much needed medical info in 3rd world countries who don't have the infrastructure to store…
Do you really want to be injected with a highly rushed vaccine that hasn't been tested for longterm side effects? Remember when they were putting asbestos into everything? Or when they were spraying neighborhoods with 'harmless' insecticides? Or when companies fudge results to pass regulations or performance specs. The world is not very different from where it was 50 years ago. I would rather get the rona than get an…
A quick look at your comment history tells me you are only here to bridage the site with anti-vaxx messaging.
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I am shocked an appalled to see that there is an anti-vaxx undertone present on HN. A simple google search reveals that this information is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/ Please, @csense - this is only a digital certificate, one which is clearly designed not to actively track someone, but to provide much needed medical info in 3rd world countries who don't have the infrastructure to store…
Second, let's think for a few seconds how this technology would actually work in practice.
The technology is a method which allows you to put a few bits of information into the skin. Presumably it's permanent, non-user-visible and non-user-removable.
From there it's protocol design. Option (a), you could store the data of which vaccines directly on the person. Option (b), you could store some kind of ID number to an online database.
We can have a fine flamewar over the merits and drawbacks of Option (a) vs Option (b). But I think it's safe to assume there's maybe a 50% chance they'll end up going with Option (b).
This is pretty worrying. You state the fact it'll presumably only be deployed in Africa, but this is not reassuring. In African countries, it seems like it happens frequently that the government decides this week, it's your tribe's turn for genocide. In this case you'd want to make a run for it, escape your tribe's normal haunts where the death squads will be out in force.
Of course you could sneak across a border, or openly walk into a foreign customs post and ask for asylum, but changing countries has its own set of risks and problems.
An alternative survival strategy would be to simply destroy your identifying documents, if you ever had any, and try to blend in somewhere else. If your identifying document's a non-removable tattoo, you can't do this.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am shocked an appalled to see that there is an anti-vaxx undertone present on HN. A simple google search reveals that this information is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/ Please, @csense - this is only a digital certificate, one which is clearly designed not to actively track someone, but to provide much needed medical info in 3rd world countries who don't have the infrastructure to store…
I am shocked and appalled to see Snopes is believed to be a source of information validation on HN. Why-- Because Facebook told you so (facebook used Snopes for "fake news" verification)? ...Considering: "'Fact checking' website Snopes on verge of collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn't told its readers THOSE facts)" https://www.dailymail.…
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am shocked and appalled to see Snopes is believed to be a source of information validation on HN. Why-- Because Facebook told you so (facebook used Snopes for "fake news" verification)? ...Considering: "'Fact checking' website Snopes on verge of collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn't told its readers THOSE facts)" https://www.dailymail.…
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Yes, let's just weigh a bunch of URLs against a bunch of URLs. Surely more URLS => more truthy! ;)
/saracasm
I see a bunch of links, posted within 5 minutes of my post
I highly doubt you've read or verified any of those.
Your approach, as previously noted ("appeal to authority"), is flawed and defeats itself.
You are shilling for a billionaire, who has killed many in India and Africa via non-consenting vaccine testing & non-consenting vaccine-based sterilization.
Pat yourself on the back.
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AFRICA:
"what's troubling now is that there are currently more kids being paralyzed by cases of vaccine-derived polio than by the original "wild" variety."
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/11/15/7798654...
INDIA:
"The vaccine used was Gardasil, manufactured by Merck. It was administered to around 16,000 girls in the district, many of whom stayed in state government-run hostels meant for tribal students.
Months later, many girls started falling ill and by 2010 five of them died. Two more deaths were reported from Vadodara, Gujarat, where an estimated 14,000 children studying in schools meant for tribal children were also vaccinated with another brand of HPV vaccine, Cervarix, manufactured by GSK.
The committee found that consent for conducting these studies, in many cases, was taken from the hostel wardens, which was a flagrant violation of norms. In many other cases, thumbprint impressions of their poor and illiterate parents were duly affixed onto the consent form. The children also had no idea about the nature of the disease or the vaccine. The authorities concerned could not furnish requisite consent forms for the vaccinated children in a huge number of cases."
Read more at: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/bio...
PRIOR RESEARCH:
[1989] "Vaccines are under development for the control of fertility in males and females. This review discusses developments in anti-fertility vaccines at the National Institute of Immunology, New Delhi, India. A single injection procedure for the sterilization or castration of male animals depending on the site at which the injection is given, has passed through field testing and is expected to be on the market in the near future."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2665354
[1995] "Tetanus vaccine may be laced with anti-fertility drug.
"A priest, president of Human Life International (HLI) based in Maryland, has asked Congress to investigate reports of women in some developing countries unknowingly receiving a tetanus vaccine laced with the anti-fertility drug human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG).
"If it is true, he wants Congress to publicly condemn the mass vaccinations and to cut off funding to UN agencies and other involved organizations. The natural hormone hCG is needed to maintain pregnancy. The hormone would produce antibodies against hCG to prevent pregnancy. In the fall of 1994, the Pro Life Committee of Mexico was suspicious of the protocols for the tetanus toxoid campaign because they excluded all males and children and called for multiple injections of the vaccine in only women of reproductive age. "
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#18Gates is loving the attention he's getting from this. I hate the guy personally.
I cannot imagine seeing someone be so unilaterally altruistic and still hating them. Why do you feel they are deserving of your hate?
If the latter, look into the 'right wing conspiracy theories' and discard what you see as weak evidence and disinformation. Build a case from the point of view opposite of your own, then compare this to the point of view you hold now. Ask yourself which one is more convincing, and why.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am shocked an appalled to see that there is an anti-vaxx undertone present on HN. A simple google search reveals that this information is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/ Please, @csense - this is only a digital certificate, one which is clearly designed not to actively track someone, but to provide much needed medical info in 3rd world countries who don't have the infrastructure to store…
First of all, I'm not anti-vax. When there's an approved vaccine for coronavirus, I'll get it myself, and urge everyone I know to do the same. Second, let's think for a few seconds how this technology would actually work in practice. The technology is a method which allows you to put a few bits of information into the skin. Presumably it's permanent, non-user-visible and non-user-removable. From there it's protocol d…
I also want to point out that blockchain identification is inherent in the design of ID2020, so even if it was implemented, it would not give a central database a way to track everyone, only a way to look up an individuals vaccine history at the time of scan, similar to how Google and Microsoft's data sharing for COVID is operating.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I cannot imagine seeing someone be so unilaterally altruistic and still hating them. Why do you feel they are deserving of your hate?
Are you actually willing to learn, to at least consider whether a statement is true based on the merit of the facts presented, or will you categorically deny any source that isn't directly connected to legacy media? If the latter, look into the 'right wing conspiracy theories' and discard what you see as weak evidence and disinformation. Build a case from the point of view opposite of your own, then compare this to t…