hmm anyone else get this: "Sorry, this content is not available in your region."
Yep. Although I'm now used to have location-restricted media content, I think that's the first time I can't read an article because of my location.
2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
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Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Americans go through 24M chickens a day, but a significant portion isn't eaten. Think of all the food thrown away at restaurants because it sat too long, food that goes bad in the fridge (oops! guilty), food that kids get served but don't eat (as a parent, I see this a lot). While it is disturbing to hear this, I'm sure this amount of chicken meat is wasted on a daily, or at least close to it.
Roughly 40% of food created, is wasted: https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/wasted-2017-report....
Well the alternative would probably be empty food shelves like you had in planned economies like the DDR and Soviet Union. Just in time food production just doesn't work for things that have to start production ~2-6 months before they are delivered and have a shelf life of ~1-2 weeks. Fresh bread delivered to bakeries regularly sells out here and this is expected, same with Meat and some vegetables. But there is no way to achieve empty vegetable and Meat shelves without pissing people off.
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#73Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day. However it's still deplorable that we can't find a way to not waste this amount of food.
If that other comment that says 40% of food produced is wasted is accurate, that means ~9.6M chickens are wasted every single day
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#74Can we not just put them in a field for a while?
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#75hmm anyone else get this: "Sorry, this content is not available in your region."
I got the same 403 message.
Luckily outline.com was able to fetch the article: https://outline.com/yecexc
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's being downvoted because it doesn't really make sense. Plants lack a central nervous system, so vegans tend to draw the line somewhere there. Regardless if we did find out that plants somehow where conscious and could feel pain we need to feed animals a huge amount of plant matter in order for us to eat them. If vegans are trying to minimise harm done then it'd still make sense to eat them directly than eat anima…
But what if the plants we like to eat are more conscious than the plants that animals like to eat? Or even more conscious than the animals themselves? How do we really know? What if there is a God in every peanut?
Well why base your actions on anything at all given that line of thinking? Although I do like the idea of a God in a peanut.
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#77It is our collective karma, to outsource cruelty to industrial animal farming. Even though I have become mostly vegetarian, it is quite tempting to buy meat for the convenience and the fact that sometimes it is much cheaper than fresh vegetables (at least in the west). Human progress and social evolution has somehow come with greater compassion for fellow beings. Will our coming generations value compassion in itself…
- Even though I have become mostly vegetarian, it is quite tempting to buy meat for the convenience and the fact that sometimes it is much cheaper than fresh vegetables (at least in the west).
That's what I hear a lot, but I'm not sure it's true. Since being 'plant-based' I've not really noticed much change in how much I spend on shopping. I tend to buy seasonal and what's on offer, plus I pretty much eat anything.
Meat substitues tend to be the most expensive, but I try and avoid these products.
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#78Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day. However it's still deplorable that we can't find a way to not waste this amount of food.
If that other comment that says 40% of food produced is wasted is accurate, that means ~9.6M chickens are wasted every single day
No, I don’t think it means that at all. It’s a percentage of all food that gets wasted, not every food.
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Roughly 40% of food created, is wasted: https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/wasted-2017-report....
Well the alternative would probably be empty food shelves like you had in planned economies like the DDR and Soviet Union. Just in time food production just doesn't work for things that have to start production ~2-6 months before they are delivered and have a shelf life of ~1-2 weeks. Fresh bread delivered to bakeries regularly sells out here and this is expected, same with Meat and some vegetables. But there is no w…
Bad example.
Empty shelves in USSR only occurred at later years and were not a (direct) result of having a planned economy. It was a bad side offect of introducing parts of self-regulation a la market economy.
It doesn't take much planning to not waste 40% food.
Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
#80It is our collective karma, to outsource cruelty to industrial animal farming. Even though I have become mostly vegetarian, it is quite tempting to buy meat for the convenience and the fact that sometimes it is much cheaper than fresh vegetables (at least in the west). Human progress and social evolution has somehow come with greater compassion for fellow beings. Will our coming generations value compassion in itself…
I find the assumptions embedded in this argument very strange. It brings up a huge number of questions. Only a conscious being would feel pain, so what is consciousness? Does it come down and embed itself into creatures that are born? If so, if they weren't born, would that be necessarily better? What if consciousness, if it didn't have a body to enter into, appeared in a different universe from ours with its own, po…
so by extension everything is just great, right? What if a person perishes from torture and war crimes? it at least lived part of its life happily before that. Who knows what would happen if the person was born in the sucks-to-be-there (TM) "dimension" (!?). what is consciousness? is the person who is reading this now conscious? who knows. let's all eat each other while we ponder these great questions. could be totally worse, yeah. ;)