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Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day. However it's still deplorable that we can't find a way to not waste this amount of food.

Here's a good documentary on the topic: "Just Eat It"

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/just_eat_it_a_food_waste_st...

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

#42
Sadly this trend will continue. There will be a lot of wastage because our society and systems were built on higher levels of consumption, for better or for worse.

There's momentum built in a system of scale and we're seeing what happens when the end consuming falls off the charts.

Once society starts back up, we'll see the opposite where we'll be angry there are shortages of things we expect even though we're "back online".

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

#43
Squint really hard with me... From an environmental point of view I think its encouraging there is so much headway we can collectively make by reducing waste than hoping new tech and infrastructure will allow the same level of consumption

https://www.nrdc.org/resources/wasted-how-america-losing-40-...

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Just today I saw the news about famine in West Africa. Sigh...

We live in a bubble, I feel so out of touch with how people live in many of the other places in the world. Last October I visited Pakistan and what I saw there really made me think about the scale of globally inequality that’s just allowed to “exist”. Not just in food, but so many other places in our lives we take for granted.

Just because you live in a more developed country, it doesn't make you responsible for well-being of people from less developed ones. We're adults who are capable of making our own decision decisions and being responsible for the consequences, and this modern leftist rebranding of white man's burden is a bit insulting, to be honest.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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I hate to break it to you, but in general our treatment of animals is way better than a 100 years ago. Animal shelters? Animal cruelty laws? Etc. That fish throwing contest? Oh, it's almost definitely older than 100 years (as are dog fights, dolphin slaughter, goose pulling, cock throwing and other wonderful traditions from around the world).

That is one side of the scale. The other side of the scale has the meat industry in it (which is absolutely not like 100 years ago). As someone who used to work in a slaughter house, I am not convinced that today is better. I can see our children looking back in a few generations and think of us as barbaric. I thought of it as barbaric and surreal when working there.

The scale? Yeah, the scale is much bigger. Conditions for animals? Not much different than 100 years ago [1]. And I'd argue they are better in many cases (and in many countries).

[1] https://io9.gizmodo.com/utterly-disturbing-century-old-photo...

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We live in a bubble, I feel so out of touch with how people live in many of the other places in the world. Last October I visited Pakistan and what I saw there really made me think about the scale of globally inequality that’s just allowed to “exist”. Not just in food, but so many other places in our lives we take for granted.

Pakistan is a lot of human created issues though. They have the most fertile land in the subcontinent along the indus river. However they have had absolutely no population control measures unlike India and Bangladesh which are almost at replacement level fertility. Throw in a backward society, mismanagement, lack of democracy and you get this. My point simply is that the hunger is not merely because of shortage of fo…

For some people, stating that poor countries might be remotely responsible for their own problems is a highly controversial stance.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

#47
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Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day. However it's still deplorable that we can't find a way to not waste this amount of food.

Americans go through 24M chickens a day, but a significant portion isn't eaten. Think of all the food thrown away at restaurants because it sat too long, food that goes bad in the fridge (oops! guilty), food that kids get served but don't eat (as a parent, I see this a lot). While it is disturbing to hear this, I'm sure this amount of chicken meat is wasted on a daily, or at least close to it.

Roughly 40% of food created, is wasted: https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/wasted-2017-report....

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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I think the word prematurely is missing

> I think the word prematurely is missing If its a the processing plant that's kind of true, even if they could run them through the automated 'harvesting' system its probably really expensive to store until an undisclosed time for it to be processed and then sent to market. At a significant loss in Market price, I imagine. So its best to take the subsidy/insured loss and restart again. This is actually really fuckin…

24 million chickens?! That’s one chicken per person per 10 days or so.

That’s a fuckton of chickens.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pakistan is a lot of human created issues though. They have the most fertile land in the subcontinent along the indus river. However they have had absolutely no population control measures unlike India and Bangladesh which are almost at replacement level fertility. Throw in a backward society, mismanagement, lack of democracy and you get this. My point simply is that the hunger is not merely because of shortage of fo…

For some people, stating that poor countries might be remotely responsible for their own problems is a highly controversial stance.

Yes and No, being from India myself i understand it is complicated. However western views are clouded. What the journalists and observers do not understand is that you cannot apply the same logic you applied to your own country and many good intentioned policies will turn out into tragedy of commons. This has been demonstrated time and again. This is why i have this unpopular opinion that what China did was simply unimaginable. Yes, they have their issues but a proper democracy where nothing moves (e.g. Sardar Sarovar dam on river Narmada was involved in litigation for over 50 years over increasing dam height which submerged some tribal villages, other side of the coin was it increased the irrigated land substantially ) compared to China where they executed more hydrological projects in 10-15 years than probably what the world did in entirety of 20th century. Surely some people were negatively impacted, but the outcome was net positive. We can argue about corruption, few people skimming the benefits but i think the Chinese society bargain with CCP is to ensure jobs, opportunities and development in exchange for no significant revolution. The misplaced idealism and token suggestions and projects that happen in Africa and India are useless. Only strong, difficult decisions that should've been taken decades ago would've made a difference. It is not possible to make everyone happy in one go.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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I think chickens are ground up with their feathers and ugly bits by falling from a treadmill. I guess one can't sell that as food but I'm pretty sure they can do something with it. Although, it's fine by me, meat is in its nature pretty wasteful, in addition to those 2M chickens there's probably more tons of soy protein wasted on chicken feed. Good thing that protein rich legumes do not need much processing.

My family and I are on day number 1153 of eating beans every day (and no animal products)

And how was the experince? Some blog, could learn from it?
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