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It is not a given that there exists an optimal middle ground when it comes to central information control. Similar arguments have been done in regard to encryption controls where the arguments are in favor of backdoors, escrows, export control. But it has been mostly rejected that we need to find a optimal middle ground between giving government access to information and providing encryption for e-commerce depending…

> central information control is an evil whose time has come. It depends on the context. If your city is being invaded by a civilian-slaughtering army, I doubt many of the civilians would refer to a coordinated military defense as "evil", even though it would rely heavily on centralized information control.

In war time we accept the kind of government control that we would never do in peace time. Law is suspended. Freedom is removed. Elections is historically often put on hold.

During war time people genuinely believe in the superiority of government wisdom. It is sad aspect of how people work during a crisis, and it has enabled many atrocities which we in peace time can't image a human being could commit. Thankfully in peace time people tend to build up some resistance and recognize government wisdom for what it is. Sometimes it is right, sometimes it is not, and only through open dialog and free communication can we determine which is which.

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This is the Google/Alphabet that is infamous for no human customer support at all. If you ever mention coronavirus or related terms, expect the automatic ban with no way to argue for it.

I'm beginning to think that the Harry Potter was actually a dystopian novel. You must refer it like You-Know-The-Pathogen or The Pathogen That Must Not Be Named.

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One of the things that's important when we discuss any kind of censorship and freedom of speech is what we call "Chilling Effects". If you know taking a political position is going to result in your family being arrested and put in prison, then your speech is being curbed even without being punished and it's one of the insidious wrongs of censorship. When a grown man who was in the marines for several years is afraid…

Has anyone been demonetized for simply mentioning Coronavirus or is this just their precaution? Now the conversation is drifting away from the original point so I want to be sure

Tim Pool has talked about it regularly, how if independent Youtubers even speak the word their video will be instantly demonetized, but bigger YT channels (those with millions of subs) as well as mainstream media outlets can use the term with no ill effects. He's such a prolific content creator across three channels I can't single out an exact video from the past ~90 days of material for you though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SamandTolki/comments/foem3m/h3h3_up...

https://youtu.be/C3j4TEUeDbw

Here's a related article:

https://onezero.medium.com/youtubes-independent-creators-are...

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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This is how all news media operated before the internet created mouthpieces for non-professionals. In addition to suppressing some inconvenient truths they filtered out crackpot ideas that have become a plague in modern times.

What exactly qualifies someone to be a "professional" who is allowed to speak? The vast majority of content I watch on Youtube is produced by independent creators covering a variety of topics with much more detail, expertise, and truth than any mainstream program.

Indeed. In many fields, especially applied or related to life, only the less "professional" are assertive. Experts profess very nuanced thoughts.

Countering assertions which are proven false is good (pointing to a FAQ is sufficient). Censoring, on the other hand, seems counterproductive to me and nourishes the usual "they censor us because they cannot produce a valid counter-argument".

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There isn’t “qualified” and “unqualified”. It’s not that black-and-white, and I wish people would accept that more. Basically what we should be asking ourselves is “What’s the likelihood that what this person is telling me is correct?” which is much more useful, because it immediately puts the focus on what factors contribute to that. We aren’t going to conclude anything useful until we can agree that there are good…

I think part of the trouble is, our society is built on the radical decentralization of information control during the enlightenment. Our most basic propaganda is based around the idea that we are the successful society because we allow more decentralised information control. The central powers who would like to now have more control over our information are also the primary sources of propaganda which justifies our…

Tribes are non local? That's a pipe dream. Every minute 23 girls younger than 18 married in a pre-arrangement. If a 35 year old man would trade a goat for a 13 year old girl in the developed world than the tribe would hang this man before midnight when the news reports on this extreme form of child abuse. When it these things happen outside the Dunbar number in developing countries we don't give a fuck.

Today 600 million women are alive that were sold before they were 18 to the highest bid, around 200 million also received a physical downgrade by butchering & cutting out a part of their vagina.

Tribes are hyper local.

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Just created an account, and have started syncing my YouTube uploads to it (it ain't much, but whatever). I ain't entirely sold on the whole blockchain aspect, but hey, worth trying, right? One question, though: I started off at https://lbry.com/youtube and started the sync process with a channel name, and then created an account with a different starting channel name; will both channels get correctly tied to my acco…

Awesome, thank you for syncing! The sync process actually creates a separate channel for you, which is later transferred to your account. You can clean up the old channel: lbry.com/faq/youtube#cleanup The above FAQ also explains the process in more detail. Let us know if you have any other questions!

Separate channel is perfect (I do want them to be distinct). Looks like it did indeed get tied to the account I created, so we're good :)

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"We only hire the smartest people ..."

“And by smartest people we mean people that practiced binary search tree implementations for a week prior to their interviews”

Lol

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Free speech (well, most freedoms, really) will die the day we decide "saving lives" is worth _any_ cost. Heck, we already decided trashing the economy is worth "saving lives" (how many?), I imagine some people would be overjoyed to remove the 1st amendment in order to lower disease spread, lower the suicide rate of those vulnerable to hate speech, etc. And why stop there? Remove 2nd amendment and you can save even mo…

Don't you think this is because the modern secular attitude has no real foundation to make moral choices and picks "saving lives" almost randomly, just as a plausible highest good? :)

For example, Christianity strives to save souls, not lives. That gives a very different vantage point. From this point it's absolutely clear that the right to speak candidly cannot be abolished on such a ridiculous premise as saving lives.

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This statement is exactly the bollocks that got us here. Just because you have a social media account, or fucking "likes", does not qualify you to speak about pandemics, or vaccinations, or gravity, etc.

Then why dont you answer the question: what does qualify someone?

Actual experience in a field ?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I think part of the trouble is, our society is built on the radical decentralization of information control during the enlightenment. Our most basic propaganda is based around the idea that we are the successful society because we allow more decentralised information control. The central powers who would like to now have more control over our information are also the primary sources of propaganda which justifies our…

Tribes are non local? That's a pipe dream. Every minute 23 girls younger than 18 married in a pre-arrangement. If a 35 year old man would trade a goat for a 13 year old girl in the developed world than the tribe would hang this man before midnight when the news reports on this extreme form of child abuse. When it these things happen outside the Dunbar number in developing countries we don't give a fuck. Today 600 mil…

When I say 'tribes', I am referring to any ideological monoculture. Obviously some tribes are more adapted to local conditions. I would bet even the tribes you are referring to prioritise access to communications technology that allows them to co-ordinate their activities over distances that would have been unmanageable to them two generations ago.
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