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Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market

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Re: Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market

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> Google's is to make money by selling advertising. They also collect licensing fees when phone makers use the Android name, Google trademarks and Google's software in the phones. I assume their foray into mobile phones is to fragment the market and prevent any other player from gaining a dominant market share.

They also collect licensing fees when phone makers use the Android name, Google trademarks and Google's software in the phones. Is that accurate? Everything I've seen has indicated that if anything money moves the other way - Google sharing revenue on platform ads (and possibly other services) with oems and carriers. I haven't seen anyone claim that oems pay licensing fees to google for google apps and trademarks - I…

From Dan Morrill on the Android Developer Blog (http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/note-on-googl...):

"With a high-quality open platform in hand, we then returned to our goal of making our services available on users’ phones. That’s why we developed Android apps for many of our services like YouTube, Gmail, Google Voice, and so on. These apps are Google’s way of benefiting from Android in the same way that any other developer can, but the apps are not part of the Android platform itself. We make some of these apps available to users of any Android-powered device via Android Market, and others are pre-installed on some phones through business deals."

The phrase "pre-installed on some phones through business deals" is at least suggestive that Google is being paid for the inclusion of their apps on phones.

Re: Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market

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> Apple is trying to grab hard onto the market segment that brings in the most profit, while Google is going for the commodity, high volume, low margin option. Hardly. Google doesn't make phones.

If they did, though, it would make sense. Apple's business model is to make money by selling hardware; Google's is to make money by selling advertising.

It's also the app store which does over a billion in sales annually not to mention the revshare on subscription services that Apple requires.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google's is to make money by selling advertising. They also collect licensing fees when phone makers use the Android name, Google trademarks and Google's software in the phones. I assume their foray into mobile phones is to fragment the market and prevent any other player from gaining a dominant market share.

They also collect licensing fees when phone makers use the Android name, Google trademarks and Google's software in the phones. Is that accurate? Everything I've seen has indicated that if anything money moves the other way - Google sharing revenue on platform ads (and possibly other services) with oems and carriers. I haven't seen anyone claim that oems pay licensing fees to google for google apps and trademarks - I…

> Is that accurate?

I have no reason to believe otherwise, since some Android-based devices like the original Nook never use the name Android anywhere.

However, I could not find any income statement that details their revenue sources by channel/product line.

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> Apple is trying to grab hard onto the market segment that brings in the most profit, while Google is going for the commodity, high volume, low margin option. Hardly. Google doesn't make phones.

Google "makes" advertising though, the more eyeballs it can get in front of, the better for its model.

Exactly. Google has supplanted Microsoft in the OS business. If you remember, Microsoft's business model was to commoditize PCs. Microsoft won when Dell and HP raced each other to the bottom on margins.

Now I see history repeating itself, only this time the handset makers have two people trying to squeeze them into commodity providers competing on price: (1) Google and (2) The Carriers.

Re: Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market

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apparently in late 2012, when nokia windows phones are released, microsoft mobile market share will approach zero.

The good news is that they can't have a negative market share.

They made phones that sold next to no units, didn't they? That's "negative market share" by me.

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> Apple is trying to grab hard onto the market segment that brings in the most profit, while Google is going for the commodity, high volume, low margin option. Hardly. Google doesn't make phones.

Google "makes" advertising though, the more eyeballs it can get in front of, the better for its model.

If that were their only idea, they would be happy with Apple building Safari into iPhones.

Re: Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market

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This is so funny. Android is gaining it's share and everyone is trying to create iPhone killer. Noone is doing an Android killer:)

It's because all Android has done is blurred the line between smart phone and feature phone. It's Android phones now that are the free and BOGO phones and that's exactly what Google wants--a base out there that they cannot be excluded from for their primary business, advertising. ex.: http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/110303_andro...

Dear US writers: $0 Upfront is not a "free" phone. $50 Upfront is not a "Cheap" phone.

I can get a "Free" iPhone 4 32GB on any carrier I like in Australia.

// This doesn't mean that Android isn't undercutting apple on price -- but that $0 / $50 / $200 upfront are not meaningful in any way

Re: Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market

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American smartphone market.

The world market as well: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/31/us-google-nokia-id...

Well, the OP's headline is about phone models and your rank is about operating systems. Is still don't know what phone model is #1 in the world.
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