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How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Hey, I finally got to use the "flag" button! (In case the post above is deleted; it's about 1000 lines of "-" characters and nothing else.)

How much karma do you need to be able to flag?

For me I noticed the flag button for the first time when I reached around 150 karma points.

Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Actually this isn't about what it's like to work for Bill Gates, it's about Joel Spolsky and reflected glory.

Yes, but it has one great takeaway quote that isn't self-serving: > Watching nonprogrammers trying to run software companies is like watching someone who doesn't know how to surf trying to surf. Even if he has great advisers standing on the shore telling him what to do, he still falls off the board again and again. The cult of the M.B.A. likes to believe that you can run organizations that do things that you don't un…

Hum... tell that to the non-programmer Steve Jobs (who doesn´t have a MBA either).

Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Yes, but it has one great takeaway quote that isn't self-serving: > Watching nonprogrammers trying to run software companies is like watching someone who doesn't know how to surf trying to surf. Even if he has great advisers standing on the shore telling him what to do, he still falls off the board again and again. The cult of the M.B.A. likes to believe that you can run organizations that do things that you don't un…

Hum... tell that to the non-programmer Steve Jobs (who doesn´t have a MBA either).

Steve is actually quite technical, he just wasn't a world-class prodigy in engineering like Woz was.

Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Yes, but it has one great takeaway quote that isn't self-serving: > Watching nonprogrammers trying to run software companies is like watching someone who doesn't know how to surf trying to surf. Even if he has great advisers standing on the shore telling him what to do, he still falls off the board again and again. The cult of the M.B.A. likes to believe that you can run organizations that do things that you don't un…

Hum... tell that to the non-programmer Steve Jobs (who doesn´t have a MBA either).

Well, it _does_ help to have sociopathic tendencies. BTW did he ever acknowledge that the child he fathered was indeed his daughter? From the movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley" I got the idea he wouldn't even _acknowledge_ his child for years.

Must be great to have a dad like that.

Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Hum... tell that to the non-programmer Steve Jobs (who doesn´t have a MBA either).

Well, it _does_ help to have sociopathic tendencies. BTW did he ever acknowledge that the child he fathered was indeed his daughter? From the movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley" I got the idea he wouldn't even _acknowledge_ his child for years. Must be great to have a dad like that.

I'd hope that you dont base your entire perception of a person on a movie.

Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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I find that Joel's essays are always a lot of fun to read. But complaints about his writing, not so much.

Joel's essays are just that. Essays. He continues to ignore any and all research in the area and pretends to know what he's doing. If I wanted a bunch of misinformed opinions I could just ask non-programmers.

So point out a couple for things where he is wrong, according to research? That would actually be interesting. Also, Joel does quote research results in his essays.

Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Hey, I finally got to use the "flag" button! (In case the post above is deleted; it's about 1000 lines of "-" characters and nothing else.)

How much karma do you need to be able to flag?

I can flag posts but not comments, and I'm at 118.

I do notice, however, that I see the flag link for your comment now that I've hit the reply button. I think this is a bug.

Re: How Hard Could it Be? Joel Spolsky recalls what it was like to work for Bill Gates

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Yes, but it has one great takeaway quote that isn't self-serving: > Watching nonprogrammers trying to run software companies is like watching someone who doesn't know how to surf trying to surf. Even if he has great advisers standing on the shore telling him what to do, he still falls off the board again and again. The cult of the M.B.A. likes to believe that you can run organizations that do things that you don't un…

Hum... tell that to the non-programmer Steve Jobs (who doesn´t have a MBA either).

That's a great case-in-point. He spent nearly his whole adult life running Apple, and he knows that company's business inside and out. He hired a Pepsi guy to take over as CEO, and things went poorly.
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