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A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

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Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#101
The beer supplier for my local pub actually came by to empty the kegs. They're taking it all back to get get converted into hand sanitizer. Which is a great solution.

As for the pub, they're offering takeout of their normal menu. As well as sell craft beer packages.

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#102

They are also sending beer that is expired or can’t be distributed to a nearby craft distiller to be turned into hand sanitizer. That's an excellent solution, as the demand for the latter has definitely been going up rapidly in the past little while.

There have been issues in that many ethanol producers are not licensed to produce medical-grade ethanol, which is what’s required for hand sanitizer. So it hasn’t been entirely straightforward to convert biofuel or drinking alcohol production over.

I can see why sanitizer used in a hospital would have to be "medical-grade", whatever that means. Why would any other sanitizer need this? If the fluid was safe to drink (most alcoholic beverages are sold for this purpose), why wouldn't it be safe to rub on hands?

Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#103
post #11

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That sounds like a terrible decision

Though the social results will be fascinating... I'm sure there are researchers salivating over this opportunity.

If only there was a similar ban on alcohol which was supposed to help, but ended up making the situation worse. Maybe it even overlapped with a financial crisis.

Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#104

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My theory is that people who like these extremely hoppy IPAs have (1) lost their ability to taste more subtle flavors, (2) are performing some kind of signalling to their fellow beer connisseur peers about how much of a beer geek they are.

They're just nice. People have different taste. I don't understand why you have to make theories. If I had to I'd theorise people who make theories about people who like hoppy IPAs (1) have sensitive taste buds, (2) are performing some kind of signaling.

So meta!

Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#105

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The USA has more beer variety, maybe it's more difficult logistically? No, it's just that for as much that has changed in America since its founding, being a bunch of Puritanical tight asses is still kind of encoded into our societal DNA.

The Puritans had beer upon arrival, so don't lay this on them.

Yes, beer would be acceptable in moderation by the Puritans and their Protestant descendants. Early Americans advocated temperance rather than complete abstinence. Much of this was a result of seeking a better/perfect society after the American Revolution. Evangelical Protestants spread religion and reform through the USA in what is known as the "Second Great Awakening" from 1790 to 1840. During this time, the temperance movement gained support. This led to a gain in popularity of complete abstinence from alcohol and the formation of various groups advocating for teetotalism. Through the late 1800's and early 1900's prohibitionist movements gained traction including the Anti-Saloon League which was driven by evangelical Protestantism. It was this organization that ultimately led to the Eighteenth Amendment of the United States constitution being ratified and prohibiting sale and manufacture of alcohol.

It has been a battle ever since. The area I live in only recently allowed the sale of liquor in restaurants and bars and still does not sell liquor by the bottle. There were many movements that had influence so perhaps it isn't fair to lay the blame solely on the Puritans, but they did have great influence in regards to alcohol in the USA and the parent isn't wrong, but has certainly omitted details.

Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#107
post #29

simple solution: convert it to malt vinegar. this is a natural process caused by introducing a vinegar culture into the beer. then, sell it to the food industry or divert it to your food holdings (hot sauces or snacks.) this can also be distilled into acetic acid which is used in everything from solvents to cervical cancer screens and the production of precursors for polyvinyl acetate.

Or lager whiskey?

Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#108

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There have been issues in that many ethanol producers are not licensed to produce medical-grade ethanol, which is what’s required for hand sanitizer. So it hasn’t been entirely straightforward to convert biofuel or drinking alcohol production over.

I can see why sanitizer used in a hospital would have to be "medical-grade", whatever that means. Why would any other sanitizer need this? If the fluid was safe to drink (most alcoholic beverages are sold for this purpose), why wouldn't it be safe to rub on hands?

I don't know about medical-grade but it's usually illegal for a brewery to produce alcohol strong enough to be useful as a sanitizer.

Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#109
post #49

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The only thing stopping Americans from seriously protesting is cheap beer & cigarettes & sports on TV. One is already gone, there is no way they'll take away the others.

Yep. Thankfully I've got enough booze stocked up that even if the liquor stores shut down I'd be good for awhile, and I don't smoke so that's a non-factor for me. The lack of hockey and NASCAR is annoying but manageable.

Curious what you have stocked up, mind sharing?

Re: A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Million Kegs Are Going Stale

#110
post #38

My son in college (well in his apt with his gf, taking classes online) could easily take care of one before it expired. Hell, we could too. In Germany we had the “beer man” who would drop off beer weekly and collect the empties. This should be adopted in the USA.

> My son in college...could easily take care of one before it expired. Hell, we could too. I'm calling bullshit. Went through this in college. There's 165 12oz beers in a standard keg. If you don't refrigerate it (which you probably can't), that beer is going to go bad well within a week once it's tapped. That means to finish a keg between 2 people you're drinking 11+ beers per person every day. I mean, yeah that's d…

Not if you use CO2! For less than $100 you can get a regulator, keg tap and pouring spigot -- it'll last for several weeks.

... so I've been told by a "friend".

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