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I work from home and am a big advocate of doing so. One thing I find difficult in remote teams is the ability to ask a coworker a question quickly. There can be a fair amount of lag time over messenger and this occasionally blocks the completion of work.

> One thing I find difficult in remote teams is the ability to ask a coworker a question quickly. Why is it so important that your colleague HAVE to respond quickly? Have you ever considered that your colleague may need some time alone to finish her own task before she can answer your super important question? (sorry for the mood of my answer but it is so bad on purpose :) )

People who are focused on task are easy to distinguish visually, when you are in person.

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This article is entitled "There's No Such Thing as Quality Time." It's oriented towards families, but it makes the case that there's no levels of time, just...time, we spend together. Things happen in the cracks between scheduled events that matter. https://ryanholiday.net/quality-time/ When you work remote, everything is scheduled, almost by definition. No conversations happen that are not task-directed. You lose so…

> When you work remote, everything is scheduled, almost by definition. No conversations happen that are not task-directed. You lose something there.

This is not how it was for us. And other teams that were distributed even before covid also were not like this - portion of their calls were always idle chat.

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Hiring - People who are great remote workers are a small percentage of the available talent, so you often end up either with talented people who don't do well remotely, or less talented people who are great at working remote. There certainly are people out there with both traits, but it takes a ton of effort to find them and build a team of them.

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Alignment and coordination suffer, in my experience; on the other hand, the productivity at large is increased. It could be that remote work is more suited to some stages of the product / service life, notably the early stage (brainstorming, early design, early tests) and the sales / post-sales stage (business development, due diligence, customer care)?

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It fails with respect to growing junior team members. It’s impossible for junior team members to observe the day-to-day patterns, habits and general implicit knowledge of senior team members that they would pick up (mostly not consciously) in an office simply through observation.

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It fails with respect to growing junior team members. It’s impossible for junior team members to observe the day-to-day patterns, habits and general implicit knowledge of senior team members that they would pick up (mostly not consciously) in an office simply through observation.

Do you think this might be solved by more screensharing and/or pair programming together with experienced devs?

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Remote work could be perfect for individual contributors, but it's still full of challenges for people who work on teams.

There's been a lot of buzz lately about remote work. I have been working remotely since 2012; the challenges of remote work are not new to me. I work with 30+ people, and our clients are in different timezones. Our team includes full-stack developers, designers, product leads, and other support staff.

First Challenge: Schedule of work hours or team availability. Back in 2012, each member of our team started working from our respective homes. We started with seven team members; it's a small team. Initially, people are productive while we work as individual contributors. However, efficiency and productivity dropped very low when we started to work on the same project because everyone has the flexibility to choose when they want to work as long as they complete the required hours per week. We partially solved this by setting standard work hours that everyone in the team will follow.

Second Challenge: Quality of work is affected by many factors. Working alone remotely is initially fun, but eventually, employees feel lonely. Keeping focus at work is also hard due to distractions, like games, social media, house-related errands, etc. Monitoring employees' honesty on work hours and work done is also a challenge. Since our team mostly live in the same town, we decided to work in the same place. We converted my whole dorm into an office, removed the walls, joint the rooms, and made it look like a real office. Centralizing our distributed team to work in the same place doubled or tripled our team's efficiency and productivity. You can imagine how it made it easier to do daily standups, do design planning, pair programming, code reviews, etc. Employees became happier, and the bond between got stronger; we also eat meals together, we go on retreats, we play games together, our employee retention rate is 90% since we started. Over the years of working remotely, we have also built a tool that we use internally to manage and monitor employees and projects.

Now with the Corona Virus, our team is back temporarily in working from home, and most of us can't wait to start working together in the office again.

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

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I work from home and am a big advocate of doing so. One thing I find difficult in remote teams is the ability to ask a coworker a question quickly. There can be a fair amount of lag time over messenger and this occasionally blocks the completion of work.

> One thing I find difficult in remote teams is the ability to ask a coworker a question quickly. Why is it so important that your colleague HAVE to respond quickly? Have you ever considered that your colleague may need some time alone to finish her own task before she can answer your super important question? (sorry for the mood of my answer but it is so bad on purpose :) )

If I am stuck on something, and that something is in your realm, either for understanding or providing, then I might be stuck and unproductive until you answer.

e.g. I send you a message - I am trying to use 'xyzzy' which you provide. When I send it 'plover' I do not get back the response I need. Am I doing something wrong? WTF why can he not respond in a reasonable time frame? 1) on vacation, 2) sick in bed 3) over worked 4) a jerk 5) missed my email. In an office I can walk over and say WTF? Where I will easily find the new person who took his place, since he moved on to another job.

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