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Amazon routinely involves themselves in social/political systems to exploit the circumstances to their benefit. See: their involvement in Seattle politics vs Kshama Sawant; the recent bidding war between cities for Amazon's HQ2 and all the tax benefits that were laid at their feet; the routine union-busting efforts including literally forcing some workers to attend an online course about why unions are bad... the lis…
The Catholic Church in Germany had it written into LAW that they can deny its employees to unionize or strike and they can discriminate them (e.g., fire them) for their personal and religious beliefs. Oh, and did I mention that thousands of cases of sexual abuse went unpunished because the German Catholic Church made sure that they would not be prosecuted? So, give me a break with for-profit company morale - or put d…
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#212Rapid surges in hiring are often accompanied by harder negotiation stances in pay and condtions since new hires have not had time to socialise or organise and hence unionise. Bezos is notoriously opposed to organised labour. I think this surge implies a fight, and a long one.
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#213I'm curious what Amazon warehouse worker is going to take this deal when there's free state and federal government checks being dished out.
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#214Rapid surges in hiring are often accompanied by harder negotiation stances in pay and condtions since new hires have not had time to socialise or organise and hence unionise. Bezos is notoriously opposed to organised labour. I think this surge implies a fight, and a long one.
No one getting hired to work in an amazon warehouse is negotiating anything beyond what shifts they will be picking up.
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:( I'm still flabbergasted at the need to compare to the EU or European states. No where in my original comments did I bring them up, or was thinking of them. Your snide metaphor also doesn't work since the EU does not override the nation-state model. The EU parliament only exerts some powers over EU nations. The Health department of Germany cannot made decisions on behalf of the health department of France. I unders…
I'm the one who brought up the EU. The purpose was as a size comparison. Look at the differences in covid "stage" between different EU states - that difference is primarily a function of geography - the time it takes for the virus to spread is about the same as the time it takes to isolate and suppress it. Now consider that the US is substantially larger and more sparsely populated. That alone ensures that it doesn't…
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My understanding is the end game for that is still a vaccine or herd immunity. It just slows the process down enough that you don’t have more people dying because of a lack of equipment.
So then trying to drive the infection rate too low before reopening could actually be counterproductive because it also slows down the building of herd immunity?
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> Most low skill jobs are not that shitty though. I mean, the pay might not be great... They are shitty for a number of reasons, but that is certainly near the top of the list. Lack of agency and respect may top my personal list.
Many are outright exploitative. Fast food comes immediately to mind: I once got disciplinary action one summer, because I came in to work too much , and crossed over 80 hours in a two-week pay period, thus earning overtime. Coworkers had called out, so I got called in. Did my job, then got punished and unscheduled because I worked "too much". All so a mega-franchiser (who owns most of one particular national chain's…
Your situation was shitty, in that you were left with no options but low-pay work, but the fact that the mega-franchiser stepped in to take advantage of that situation, by hiring you, didn't make your situation any more shitty.
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Many are outright exploitative. Fast food comes immediately to mind: I once got disciplinary action one summer, because I came in to work too much , and crossed over 80 hours in a two-week pay period, thus earning overtime. Coworkers had called out, so I got called in. Did my job, then got punished and unscheduled because I worked "too much". All so a mega-franchiser (who owns most of one particular national chain's…
The mega-franchiser didn't owe you a better job. Your situation was shitty, in that you were left with no options but low-pay work, but the fact that the mega-franchiser stepped in to take advantage of that situation, by hiring you, didn't make your situation any more shitty.
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I'm the one who brought up the EU. The purpose was as a size comparison. Look at the differences in covid "stage" between different EU states - that difference is primarily a function of geography - the time it takes for the virus to spread is about the same as the time it takes to isolate and suppress it. Now consider that the US is substantially larger and more sparsely populated. That alone ensures that it doesn't…
Just like it makes no sense to say the UK is at stage one because London is ahead. You need to stop being so pedantic. I get you guys want to compare but you're beating a dead horse.
The US and the EU are federations[2][3], and their sub-national units are sovereign. Like the EU, the US’s COVID strategy has been left to the States[4].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_state
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation#Federations
[3] https://gizmodo.com/why-is-the-united-states-considered-a-co...
[4] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-stay...