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A Third Solution

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Re: A Third Solution

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Post by lvs »

klipt wrote: post #333
predxionbio wrote: post #278

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Hi, Walker here, one of the PreDxion Bio co-founders. Heres a some more information on the technology underlying the test we are developing: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25790830/ . Unfortunately, up until about a month ago us like many folks, were blissfully minding our business developing a rapid point of care cytokine detection platform for use in monitoring patients experiencing certain immune responses follow…

What do you think of the article's claim that eliminating the cold virus would be a good thing? I think I read somewhere that early exposure to cold viruses reduces the chance of acute lymphoblastic leukemia, which makes me wary of trying to eliminate them completely...

Don't worry. We're not going to run out of cold viruses any time soon, and the pitch was hyperbolic in virtually every way.

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Post by bsaul »

I can't help feeling a bit uneased reading about computer science people doing salespitch for solving a world epidemic.

If a famous medical doctor was trying to convince me that his database product was really the best, while making grandiose statement, i think i'd be very very harsh with them.

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Post by lend000 »

bsaul wrote: post #393

I can't help feeling a bit uneased reading about computer science people doing salespitch for solving a world epidemic. If a famous medical doctor was trying to convince me that his database product was really the best, while making grandiose statement, i think i'd be very very harsh with them.

This appeal to authority always bothers me. Polymaths are capable of making bigger contributions in any field they involve themselves in than the average phD can in their own field of expertise. Look at Musk, Tesla, Von Neumann, Hughes, Da Vinci, Edison, Ben Franklin.

However, I wouldn't limit this to being a "genius" thing -- there may actually be something significant to being able to apply knowledge and patterns in one or more field to a seemingly unrelated field, and people who tend to be interested enough to learn and think about a lot of different fields in depth have a better base of mental abstractions for inventing in a new field, even if they don't score ridiculously high on an IQ test.

Note that this is just a general rant -- re: the article, I don't think the pitch is particularly interesting or noteworthy.

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Post by IshKebab »

bsaul wrote: post #393

I can't help feeling a bit uneased reading about computer science people doing salespitch for solving a world epidemic. If a famous medical doctor was trying to convince me that his database product was really the best, while making grandiose statement, i think i'd be very very harsh with them.

Modelling epidemics involves maths and programming. Of course programmers are going to have a go.

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Post by clairity »

renewiltord wrote: post #361
clairity wrote: post #350

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that’s a false equivalence. every driver has the ability to refrain from texting, talking on the phone, eating their breakfast, doing their makeup, reading the paper (yes, i’ve seen this), etc. and instead focus on scanning the road and their mirrors while actively controlling their car.

I'm talking about from the view of public health administration. There is no intervention available to us that will ensure a change in behaviour economically. We do have available to us the speed limit.

> “There is no intervention available to us that will ensure a change in behaviour economically.”

of course we do. you mentioned one yourself: “providing turbo lanes for ‘Class C+‘ drivers”. it’s only a matter of imagination to come up with others.

speed limits are poor proxies for what really impacts lives saved.

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Post by john4532452 »

johncalvinyoung wrote: post #360
taneq wrote: post #345

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> I should emphasize that what we need is physical -distancing, not social. Good distinction. We should be focusing more on hygiene while finding ways to connect remotely with the people who are important to us.

> while finding ways to connect remotely with the people who are important to us Good stop-gap, but not remotely viable long-term. Humans aren't made for isolation, even if video calls help take the edge off soon. FaceTime and Zoom have a significant cognitive load, too. As long as we're talking about how society should adapt to this sort of risk, we can't just go to living in individual hermetic pods with internet c…

> FaceTime and Zoom have a significant cognitive load, too

Why the cogntive load would be lesser in a face to face conversation than digital assuming the internet connectivity is good ?

Re: A Third Solution

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Post by twomoretime »

bsaul wrote: post #393

I can't help feeling a bit uneased reading about computer science people doing salespitch for solving a world epidemic. If a famous medical doctor was trying to convince me that his database product was really the best, while making grandiose statement, i think i'd be very very harsh with them.

A huge proportion of capable autodidacts are coders. Especially those who go through grad school for STEM - the skill is invaluable.

So don't be so surprised, these aren't necessarily junior level devs at FAANG spouting off.

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Post by CPLX »

lend000 wrote: post #394
bsaul wrote: post #393

I can't help feeling a bit uneased reading about computer science people doing salespitch for solving a world epidemic. If a famous medical doctor was trying to convince me that his database product was really the best, while making grandiose statement, i think i'd be very very harsh with them.

This appeal to authority always bothers me. Polymaths are capable of making bigger contributions in any field they involve themselves in than the average phD can in their own field of expertise. Look at Musk, Tesla, Von Neumann, Hughes, Da Vinci, Edison, Ben Franklin. However, I wouldn't limit this to being a "genius" thing -- there may actually be something significant to being able to apply knowledge and patterns i…

Citing Elon Musk in this context is definitely not making the point you think it’s making.

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Post by lend000 »

CPLX wrote: post #399
lend000 wrote: post #394

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This appeal to authority always bothers me. Polymaths are capable of making bigger contributions in any field they involve themselves in than the average phD can in their own field of expertise. Look at Musk, Tesla, Von Neumann, Hughes, Da Vinci, Edison, Ben Franklin. However, I wouldn't limit this to being a "genius" thing -- there may actually be something significant to being able to apply knowledge and patterns i…

Citing Elon Musk in this context is definitely not making the point you think it’s making.

Name one aeronautical engineer phD who deserves more credit for giving America the ability to put humans in space next month than Musk.

He's quite involved with technical decisions. His social media behavior is irrelevant here -- this is about the ability to innovate outside of physics or economics, which is what he learned about in college.

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