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I would love to see some data here. What service outages? What’s your infrastructure like? What’s your DCs uptime?
There’s a few confounding factors to address before you get to the believability of the claims (which are remarkably dubious). For starters they’ve only spoken about the AWS region which is least reliable by design (as it is the first to receive new features), and they’re talking about a 10 year time span (AWS in 2010 was much less reliable than it is today). It’s also not really clear what they’re talking about when…
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Our AWS monthly spend is deep 7 figures over the last 10 years our colo projects had better uptime than AWS US East. You keep living in the marketing bubble for AWS.
I would love to see some data here. What service outages? What’s your infrastructure like? What’s your DCs uptime?
2011 April 21 Outage
2011 August 8 Outage
2012 June 29 Service disruption
2012 October 22 Outage
2012 December 24 Outage
2013 September 13 Outage
2014 November 26 Service disruption
2015 September 20 Outage
2016 June 5 Outage
2017 February 28 Outage
2018 March 2 Service degradation
2018 May 31 Outage
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#673why marketplaces are able to compete with their sellers is beyond me.
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Lets see.. Boeing: See 737 MAX, other 737 boondoggle like the vertical stabilizer reversal back in 94'ish. Monsanto, hell, what chemical hasn't hid information they damn well shouldn't: Dicamba, roundup.. Take your pick. The stellar behavior of this corporate citizen taints cements the stereotype of an entire industry. https://thecounter.org/dicamba-trial-monsanto-basf-pesticide... https://www.phillyvoice.com/new-yor…
Several dozen companies doing bad things, compared with the hundreds of thousands of companies operating in the United States. I stand by my statement -- it is rare.
The very least we can say is that company malpractice is more common than it appears, unless 100% of it is reported on.
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I’m not sure it would be easy. Large hosting platforms like GoDaddy, Wix or Squarespace could try this too, but it puts you inherently at odds with your own customers. If I pay you to host my site where I sell my products, but you index me into the central sales portal in a bad way, I’ll be pissed. Kind of like restaurants on Seamless. It comes off as deep rent seeking - instead of helping me succeed, which is the re…
But I propose it as opt-in. If you don't want in, you aren't. It would also be entirely free, Shopify makes money on the transactions, so there are no ads but they have incentive to make you visible. I don't see how this is a negative in any way for anyone. Your store still exists in its own container, and the portal is just to drive sales to you by increasing your visibility. You could theoretically carry on your bu…
This can’t be true, since no matter how you create the central sales channel, some sellers will get preferential treatment in terms of screen placement, appearance in search results, etc. Shopify could not pay the costs of operating and advertising that central channel unless the most successful businesses are placed more prominently and lead to higher conversions of some kind (sellers converting, leading to less churn or more subscribers, etc.). But every Shopify customer will want that - so who gets it? If you do nothing and “the rich get richer” and there’s no way for an outsider to break into the better display rankings of the sales channel, you’ll just alienate customers and see a huge drop in new subscribers. This is often a big problem for ecommerce companies that facilitate online sales portals like Amazon, eBay, Etsy, and even more niche things like Shutterstock.
You either “democratically” allow customers to pay for placement in your central product index, or you force customers to pay via lost business and lost opportunity, which they’ll be embittered by. But there’s no such thing as a “free” way to centrally index across all hosted subscribers.
> “GoDaddy, Wix and Squarespace couldn't really afford to do it because they aren't e-commerce focused.”
I think you are very unfamiliar with the hosting industry. All three of those businesses make the strong majority of revenue from subscribers of ecommerce plans and all three have huge platform offerings and nationwide advertising campaigns targeted specifically at ecommerce customers.
All three of them practically only exist (in terms of revenue) because they are a good hosting option for small businesses that sell online.
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They do... Dr. Squatch soap is one such example
Per Amazon's policy - no, the seller can not have lower prices on their own website than on Amazon. In practice, for now, it is not enforced (at least in my experience). https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/same-price-on-webs...
usually the copy/paste pictures and description are a good giveaway.
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Criminal conspiracies by corporate execs are not all uncommon in the history of business Actually, they are quite uncommon, which is why they make headlines when discovered. I'm not taking a side here, just pointing out a fallacy.
This is even more fallacious- the only thing that unsourced opinion proves is that certain types of criminal conspiracies that are uncovered are deemed sensational enough to sell news services. It says nothing about the commonality of successfully covert conspiracies nor about the frequency of uncovered ones that are hard for the general public to understand/care about.
Bezos is making the most money of everyone living. Many of the scandals happen when the founder is retired or dead.
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with high availability you don’t wait for an outage to spin up new resources, at that point it’s too late. it’s by definition not highly available and if you build infrastructure this way then you can’t blame AWS for an outage
So you have say 3 Region deployment are you saying that you are running 50% more instances than you need in 2 regions that are not US East to make sure you will have capacity when US East goes down :) ? I somehow seriously doubt that.
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I would love to see some data here. What service outages? What’s your infrastructure like? What’s your DCs uptime?
AWS outages you can google details 2011 April 21 Outage 2011 August 8 Outage 2012 June 29 Service disruption 2012 October 22 Outage 2012 December 24 Outage 2013 September 13 Outage 2014 November 26 Service disruption 2015 September 20 Outage 2016 June 5 Outage 2017 February 28 Outage 2018 March 2 Service degradation 2018 May 31 Outage