This seems to be good advice for anyone with not-top-quartile luck, not only bad luck.
Perhaps it’s simply good advice, and the people you see as being “lucky“ already know it (if only intuitively).
Career advice for people with bad luck
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#22- good luck!
- don't need it, never had it!
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#23A lot of talk here that colleagues aren't friends.
What is wrong with you people? If you like your colleagues you can invite them to do stuff after you or they leave. They probably haven't invited you because they never got around to it either.
Most of the older generation people met through work is the only way to make friends.
No wonder loneliness is so rampant now.
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#24> It’s also okay to take risks. Staying at a company that’s slowly dying has its costs too. Stick around too long and you’ll lose your belief that you can build, that change is possible. Try not to learn the wrong habits.
I love this. I recently decided to move towards quitting at a job that is slowly dying and find something else to do. My mood immediately lightened, even though nothing except my mental direction has changed. I don't want to let cynicism seep into me; I want to find something I'm excited about.
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#25This is one of the most useful posts ever to grace the front page.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to share values with someone to be their friend?
I need to share any subset o values. Otherwise there's no space for dialogue. I believe this is the norm.
Are people using values to mean interests? I need to share some interests: sports, beer, model building, architecture etc...
Values though? I can't see that being the norm unless your shared interest is politics, religion, or social order/dynamics.
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#27A lot of talk here that colleagues aren't friends. What is wrong with you people? If you like your colleagues you can invite them to do stuff after you or they leave. They probably haven't invited you because they never got around to it either. Most of the older generation people met through work is the only way to make friends. No wonder loneliness is so rampant now.
There's a kind of snobby attitude at play here sometimes I think, as in: 'of course I wouldn't socialise with my colleagues outside work! They are nowhere near as interesting as me and my super-awesome, quirky and unique bunch of mates, I'm just slumming it for the money'.
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#28> It’s also okay to take risks. Staying at a company that’s slowly dying has its costs too. Stick around too long and you’ll lose your belief that you can build, that change is possible. Try not to learn the wrong habits. I love this. I recently decided to move towards quitting at a job that is slowly dying and find something else to do. My mood immediately lightened, even though nothing except my mental direction ha…
+1 on this. I bailed out of a startup I was an early engineer at and worked at for close to four years awhile back and immediately my depression and frustration cleared up.
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#29This seems like a good thread in which to try to solicit some advice, since it's at least tangentially related.
I was terminated from my last job. In my opinion it was due to my chronic and major depression that I have since been seeking extensive treatment (medication, several months rent in therapy) for. I say "in my opinion" because I really can't rule out that I'm just a lazy, crappy developer who is trying to use mental health as an excuse.
Either way, I've been unemployed for over half a year and am now trying to re-enter the job market. Obviously the gap is a bit of a red flag that I've been candid about to potential employers, in the sense that I speak about a medical issue, not the specifics.
If I could go back in time, I would have quit from my last job before being fired, but honestly I was beyond caring about anything, period, so the consequences of taking the career L barely phased me. There was no upside to being fired, I just didn't care.
Now, I wish I had cared, because it's an elephant in the room I don't really know how to address. Do I tackle it proactively by outright telling everyone I was canned? Do I wait until they call up my former employer to verify my work history?
If anyone else has been in a remotely similar situation I would greatly appreciate any tips or feedback. Please just refrain from telling me I messed up - I definitely know I did.
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#30> The company is not your family. Some of the people in the company are your friends in the current context. It’s like your dorm in college. Hopefully some of them will still be your friends after. But don’t stay because you’re comfortable. This one hit hard. It’s amazing how many of the close work friends I had over the years were only close because of the shitty circumstances we endured together. Once that was gone…
Been working 3 months at my first job and this realization hit me. I enjoy spending time with my coworkers but is it all in vain?
Nah. Two jobs ago had wonderful people and we still regularly meet up for drinks (despite the company being a load for shite to work for).
Next job was a lot more family people and we rarely went for drinks together. I am not really in touch with them any more (perfectly nice people but the bonding never happened).