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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by nl »

ardy42 wrote: post #214
Barrin92 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s.

> Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s. That's misleading. The US de facto recognizes Taiwan, and the only reason it doesn't recognize it de jure is that the PRC would formally cut off relations if it did. https://en.wikipe…

Which is exactly the point!

Taiwan is a unique proposition, and eviscerating the WHO for having trouble with it without acknowledging that everywhere else has the same problem makes it look like the person is either ignorant or has some agenda.

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Post by lol2143651 »

robrenaud wrote: post #311
stcredzero wrote: post #270

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Germany bans holocaust denial. That seems fine.

How would you know otherwise?

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Post by Zenst »

Yeah, so how would YouTube help when the WHO release things like: https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

Buy all means add a disclaimer advert akin to the old DVD FBI or other pirate warnings you couldn't skip, but to dismiss debate for people who are able to make their own mind up is only going to curtail facts. That in itself curtails advice the WHO may in itself give out.

Will youtube be expanding this to anything health wise?

Will there be an appeal process for false positives?

I feel there is more that can go wrong with this, than right.

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

stcredzero wrote: post #270
logifail wrote: post #121

Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

This is how all news media operated before the internet created mouthpieces for non-professionals. In addition to suppressing some inconvenient truths they filtered out crackpot ideas that have become a plague in modern times.

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Post by nl »

tomp wrote: post #219
xupybd wrote: post #81

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It's the awkward way they one representative handled a question on Taiwan. Pretending he didn't hear the question. I think it speaks more to the unwillingness of a world health organisation to even discuss politically dangerous topics.

But that's besides the point. I don't look at WHO for geopolitical opinion. I look at it for health advice. And there 's where it failed.

Could you give specific examples of where the WHO failed to give the best advice possible at the time?

Or even any cases where they were wilfully blind?

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Post by [deleted] »

nl wrote: post #515
tomp wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that's besides the point. I don't look at WHO for geopolitical opinion. I look at it for health advice. And there 's where it failed.

Could you give specific examples of where the WHO failed to give the best advice possible at the time? Or even any cases where they were wilfully blind?

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Post by [deleted] »

nl wrote: post #515
tomp wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that's besides the point. I don't look at WHO for geopolitical opinion. I look at it for health advice. And there 's where it failed.

Could you give specific examples of where the WHO failed to give the best advice possible at the time? Or even any cases where they were wilfully blind?

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Post by xster »

mrwesleycrusher wrote: post #38

Remember when the WHO didn't recognize Taiwan as a sevreign nation? Obviously the WHO isn't solely objective.

> recognize Taiwan as a sevreign nation

This statement shows the power of western media. Yes the WHO doesn't. Neither does any other political entity in the world.

Neither the US, nor the 14 of 193 UN members that has diplomatic relations with the ROC, nor does "Taiwan" itself recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation.

Even the most pro-US pro-independence party in Taiwan, the DPP, does not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation. According to Taiwan, Taiwan is a province of the ROC which includes the mainland and the present country of Mongolia.

And you would want the health agency of the UN to be the first in the world to spearhead tectonic geopolitical changes because the corporate media tells you so?

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Post by [deleted] »

freehunter wrote: post #480
glenstein wrote: post #472

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So far as I can tell, your extremely confident, categorical interpretations of your own citations are basically mistaken, across the board. As I read [0] it is not, in fact, a blanket declaration about transmissibility. As I read [1] it is not in any way an inaccurate statement (see [3]). When read [2] it's clear that it is not a blanket declaration not to wear masks. Meanwhile Youtube is going to take down videos cl…

Is it appropriate to flag HN comments that are so blatantly wrong like the one you replied to? If YouTube is taking down misinformation, is HN doing the same?

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Post by throwaway_jobs »

xster wrote: post #489
bobcostas55 wrote: post #440

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The WHO has been spreading misinformation from the start, including claims that covid does not spread from human to human after it was abundantly clear that it does[0], claims that travel bans would be unnecessary to halt its spread[1], and claims that people should not wear masks[2]. These are not mere edge cases. We have structured our public organizations in a way that gives credentialed "experts" enormous amounts…

> claims that covid does not spread from human to human after it was abundantly clear that it does There's evidence that human to human transmission was documented on January 14? That would be the first time I hear about it. Do you have a source?

Yes Dr. Li contracted the virus on January 8 when he returned to the hospital in Wuhan where the first patients were identified in December 2019.

Dr. Li made social media posts about the virus which Chinese authorities forced him to take down and sign a written confession and promise not to do it again.

Now the question is do you have a source that shows the exact steps, if any, the WHO took to verify the “preliminary investigation” as reported by the Chinese authorities? Because from the sound of it, Chinese authorities reported these claims to WHO and WHO turned around and published the Chinese claims without performing any independent investigation (they certainly didn’t know about Dr. Li at the time).

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