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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers. Don’t get me wrong, freedom of speech et. al., and we’re probably also going to get burnt by the freedom…

> Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers.

This is not true. The rise of the Third Reich is fascinating because of its populism rooted in hard-working citizens who believed in their country.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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post #61

A lot of knee jerk responses in this thread. Can anyone elaborate why exactly allowing demonstrably harmful and malicious lies during a major health emergency is a good thing on its own merits?

Because the official narrative is not always the truth. And censorship breeds tyranny.

So again, this is an argument for allowing specific, identifiably harmful and wrong claims?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Let the market sort them out then, right?

The market won't sort them out, but the courts will. Wait until they are deemed a publisher, and no longer exempt from liability[0] for all of the content that they publish. Unfortunately they hire a lot of lobbyists so it might be a long wait. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicati...

Revoking 230 won't make the executives at YouTube go "gosh darn, guess we'll have to start taking a loss by employing hundreds of thousands of moderators to literally watch every video uploaded", they'll constrain and limit the platform in any way which still guarantees similar or greater ad revenue. That is, if there isn't any legal loophole like requiring creators sign legal paperwork which makes creators their own "publisher" or something along those lines.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Germany bans holocaust denial. That seems fine.

The devil is always in the details. What does “denial of X” even mean? Can you dispute certain facts, like numbers and dates? Who gets to decide the ultimate truth? It takes a long time for the details of history to settle. For example, nobody knew most dinosaurs had feathers until the last decade.

Truth exists, sorry for those who like to pretend it dosen't.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

That's exactly the problem. All our politicians around the world were so reactionary, many knew it has a 1-2 week incubation period, but no one was willing to make an order saying "WEAR MASKS" when no one was testing positive yet. They could have gotten ahead of this thing and prevented the outbreaks. The quarantines are a last resort because PUBLIC POLICY FAILED to contain the outbreaks. WE WILL FACE THIS SITUATION…

Obviously it's good advice to wear masks in public when confronted with a respiratory disease capable of asymptomatic transmission for days after infection. The masks don't make any one person safer, but widespread usage makes us all safer.

Trouble is, there weren't enough masks at first. It's not clear that there are now, for that matter.

One of the few things Trump is correct about is that the WHO has bungled this situation at pretty much every step of the way. So no, it's not OK for YouTube to tie their policies to WHO directives. They're a US company, so they should be referring to CDC guidelines (1) instead.

1: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-si...

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I think "You need to wear a mask when you go out of the house" directly contradicts "you only need to wear a mask when taking care of someone with COVID-19"

No they're definitely saying not to wear masks because they think it's net harmful. For example > WHO also said community masking could lead to a "false sense of security" and cause people to ignore other evidence-based measures like handwashing and self-isolation.

because it is true, the N95 mask don't protect you from the virus completely, and the masks that city advocate to use (non N95) don't do anything to protect you, they are there to protect others from you. If you sneeze or talk those masks will restrict most of the droplets from traveling far.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

> What makes them somehow wiser or smarter than everyone else in history?

Nothing, else they wouldn't have created these cesspools of disinformation in the first place.

Of course, now that they attempt to modestly curtail the worst habits exhibited on their platform in the middle of a public health crisis they can definitely expect lots of overwrought hand wringing and hitler callbacks.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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"Mrs Wojcicki added YouTube had seen a 75% increase in demand for news from "authoritative" sources." Who ??? who in its right mind is watching youtube for an "authoritative" source ??

Me. All of my Canadian news broadcasters stream on YouTube and cover covid related news both live and recorded content. I use YouTube because I will not pay for cable service just to watch the news.

I can see why they want to remove bad content, but a single authority is very bad.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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