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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by throwaway55554 »

hrayr wrote: post #131
logifail wrote: post #121

Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

I don't think that's contradicting. Directly contradicting would be "Don't wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19". What you described sounds more like extending the current WHO recommendations.

> I don't think that's contradicting.

Sure it is. Only means exclusively, one, no more. They're saying, "You exclusively need to wear a mask if you're taking care of a person with C-19". This action, excluding all others.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by triyambakam »

knzhou wrote: post #242
triyambakam wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is false about this tweet? [1] [1] https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

"No clear evidence" uncovered in a "preliminary investigation" was a completely true statement. They never ever said "okay, this definitely isn't transmissible, everybody can ignore it". They said in the early stages that it was too soon to be sure. All the other tweets from this period are saying the same thing: something might be coming, so countries should prepare.

I'm moreover pointing out that it isn't clear what YouTube would enforce or not - taken simply, there are a lot of YouTube videos that would have been in conflict with this statement on Twitter. Would they have been taken down?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by enaaem »

phs318u wrote: post #176
ColanR wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4chan was taking the virus seriously back in January, when the WHO was denying the need for travel lockdowns. The misinformation coming out of the WHO is what killed people, not the early warning that 4chan gave us. Edit: note that in both replies to my comment, none of the specific facts I mentioned were responded to. The response of the countries is being blamed, the date I mentioned is being ignored; but I am comp…

Do you really believe that? Check archive.org. The WHO published info on CV including technical guidance for the health ministries of nation states, at least as early as January 24. It’s safe to assume that national delegates would have been in discussions with WHO ahead of this. Remember, there’s only one WHO and yet we have many different responses and outcomes in different countries. The only logical conclusion is…

In Februari the WHO urges to not impose travel bans:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-who/who-chie...

Nations who handled the crisis the best, imposed travel bans early on and were criticised by the WHO.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/30/275959/the-china...

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by throwaway829 »

tantalor wrote: post #211
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think "You need to wear a mask when you go out of the house" directly contradicts "you only need to wear a mask when taking care of someone with COVID-19"

The "only" is a typo.

> "There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," WHO executive director of health emergencies Mike Ryan said Monday. - https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/...

WHO has been saying "uninfected" people should not wear masks from the beginning. That's bad advice unless you're trying to save masks for medical works which makes it a well-intentioned untruth. Either way I don't like YouTube deleting a video that contradicts this WHO "advice".

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Post by throwaway122378 »

Great post, couple days of visibility and then back to business.

Google (YouTube), Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and others have recently increased censorship. And. Nothing. Will. Happen.

Unless we all leave their sites or something else

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by wolco »

streb-lo wrote: post #177
ColanR wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4chan was taking the virus seriously back in January, when the WHO was denying the need for travel lockdowns. The misinformation coming out of the WHO is what killed people, not the early warning that 4chan gave us. Edit: note that in both replies to my comment, none of the specific facts I mentioned were responded to. The response of the countries is being blamed, the date I mentioned is being ignored; but I am comp…

This is a hilariously revisionist take people are trotting out. Forget the WHO for a second (which remember was politically cast adrift by the US when they refused to participate in it.) The news coming out of Europe/Iran/China had lay people in the US concerned by late February -- yet the American Government did everything it could to belittle or otherwise diminish the threat. Now it wants to turn around and suggest…

You are making a different point that the US could have acted sooner in late Feb.

Before the news coming out of Europe and Iran things were breaking in China. The 4chan guys were all over it way back in Jan. Remember the Chinese Dr whistle blower who got punished for letting the truth? He was dead by Jan 20-22.. at this point the WHO was downplaying, later praising China and telling everyone not to wear a mask.

The WHO response caused the outbreak to get out of control in Europe and elsewhere long before it hit North America.

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Post by jimsmart »

cryptochromium wrote: post #143
arrrg wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The WHO never denied human-to-human transmission. This is a blatant lie.

"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China," https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?s=20

Actually, technically that is the WHO summarising results from preliminary investigations by the Chinese authorities.

Saying that that is the WHO making that claim is incorrect, a kind of logical fallacy. It's like a newspaper reporting on the words/claims of a celeb or politician, and folk claiming that those words/claims were actually the newspaper's claims.

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