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For the life of me I don't get how people always say upgrades are so easy on Ubuntu. They do? I just assume that I have to do a backup of my data, wipe the disk and install they new version. Ubuntu updates never worked for me.

I don't understand how for some people it "never works", while for me it's literally never once failed, all the way from 6.10 up until now, my latest desktop install lasting through 12 updates, plus motherboard and GPU change (between Intel and AMD CPU, and Nvidia and AMD proprietary driver and then AMD open source driver no less) and four different desktop environments (Unity, Gnome, Mate, and finally KDE). The clos…

Do you run mysql / MariaDB? That's the one that bites me, 100% of the time. There are other packages that often require "adjustments" but the db makes dist-upgrade a total fail for me.

Not fun with servers, unfortunately.

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I wonder if we'll ever get /usr/bin/python back. Or is it going to be like browser user-agent strings where we call it "python3" forever and forget why we can't just call it python?

I think the python team decided to do it that way, in combination with various distro?

The python symlink is allowed to be python2 or python3. E.g. Archlinux has it point to py3, Void Linux allows the symlink to be configured by the user.

See https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ for details.

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"Fractional scaling does not work with the NVIDIA proprietary driver (bug 1870736, bug 1873403)." That's kind of a big deal for any desktop users with a high resolution display.

Yeah, its one of the main reasons using GNOME is near impossible for me. I have a 32" 4K. 2x is too big, 1x is too small. Also, the nvidia drivers are weird for some cards in linux. I'm not running ubuntu, but I have the same exact problem as this guy.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1133071/why-is-my-tty-green

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Was anyone able to run 18.04 or 20.04 successfully on a relatively modern desktop spec (AMD Ryzen 9 3950X / Nvidia 2080 TI / 32GB RAM / Custom water cooling) and two displays? I'm thinking of upgrading my development machine and running ubuntu only and I'm looking for some hints as to what could go wrong.

The overall experience is fantastic. It ends up being little edge-case things that have weird behavior.

For me; my Razer Nari wireless headphones just don't work. They're not bluetooth; they have their own low-latency USB receiver, and thus their own Razer-supplied drivers, which are not available on Linux. There's been some effort toward getting Razer products working better in Linux, but (last I ran Ubuntu, a few months ago) their headphones are not there yet.

You just have to try it out and see what works, see what doesn't. Chances are, it'll work fantastically for you.

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Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Flatpak?

On that note, what requirements pushed Ubuntu to select snap over flatpack?

Just my guess work, but I think they are afraid that THE ONE AND ONLY compatible Linux package format will be owned by RedHat. And that "auto updating" packages in that format will usually roll through RH's servers/repos. They want to be in on the action when a standard emerges and therefor push very hard for it, ship a crap product and experience backlash.

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Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Flatpak?

On that note, what requirements pushed Ubuntu to select snap over flatpack?

Snaps evolved from click packages that were developed for the Ubuntu phone. The design dates back to 2013: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-May/0370...

Flatpaks, according to Wikipedia, were first released in 2015. I don't about the current situation, but initially a bunch of features that are considered necessary for snaps were out of scope of the Flatpak project, such as IoT support.

So it wasn't so much that Ubuntu selected snaps over Flatpak. Flatpaks came along later, and Ubuntu had already invested considerable resources developing snaps.

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> The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. My main concern with Snap is security. Using the default Ubuntu Apt repositories, I can `apt install` pretty much anything I want and it's almost guaranteed to not be malicious/dangerous, as only trusted/well-established developers can get their package into the Apt repos. However, with Snap, everybody in…

The amount of cases for malicious snaps was about 1 with the cryptominer that was addressed within 3 days. Those snaps that are published go through static analysis and unless manually vetted will not have access to the rest of your system. You install it, at worst it will cryptomine that is it. Oh and you can remove it completely with all traces unlike deb equivalents. Snaps come with a tick against verified snaps c…

I don't know much about the Snap system - regarding 3rd parties and the "tick", is this using domain verification, or some other means? Do 3rd parties have to pay for this?

I read something the other day about needing to pay Canonical $15k/y for a branded Snap store, but I'm not sure if that was about private stores, this, or something else.

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Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

Most people stick with Mac and Windows because of MS Office, not Adobe.

Microsoft Office has fairly reasonable and popular browser-based alternatives. Adobe’s suite doesn’t.

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If you're just looking for a DE/WM that's light on resources, I can definitely recommend tiling window managers like i3 [1]. I'm not sure what other changes would be in your sightlines given that you were happy with Ubuntu, but I usually go to the Arch wiki in those times to see what fat I can trim off of my setup. [1] https://i3wm.org/

Regolith [1] is the perfect i3+Ubuntu combo for me. It comes with sensible default for a good i3 experience but you keep the Ubuntu "universality". [1]: https://regolith-linux.org/

Long-time i3 user here, just getting ready to try Regolith when I upgrade to 20.04. Interested to see what I get from it, and what I need to override back to my current setup.

Any pointers for an i3 user moving to Regolith?

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